Barkisland Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) Re the Wernlas delivery service. They offer a delivery service via a specialist poultry courier, but they are at the mercy of the couriers, who will only set off on a long trip once they have a full load and it is commercially viable for them. This is the only reason for the delivery service being 'unreliable', as they can wait for weeks to fill the van. The proprietors of Wernlas are 100% honest and trustworthy. They have an excellent reputation. When we picked our girls up from Wernlas, Shaun asked us if we would mind bringing a young cockerel home with us for a lady who lives about 40 miles away. He rang her whilst we were there, and told her we were willing to bring him. She then came over to ours and collected him. She had been waiting for the couriers but they only had the one order for Yorks, and were not willing to bring only him. In the event, it worked out cheaper for her, only costing her a bottle of wine, and we didn't mind at all. (She also offered us some of his fertilised eggs, once he got going, but we had to decline those for practical reasons - but it was lovely of her to offer). I suspect they arrange quite a bit of this 'informal' couriering, but obviously it depends on goodwill and having people heading in the right direction. Edited December 6, 2009 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkisland Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 TAJ, I have a beautiful Barnevelder from Wernlas too, she's gorgeous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAJ Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 TAJ, I have a beautiful Barnevelder from Wernlas too, she's gorgeous! I was debating between the Barnebar and a Barnvelder - the key issue was they normally cannot sex Barnvelders until 14 weeks old, so I had to wait longer for my birds - the lady at Wernlas confessed Barnvelders are her favourite breed and I didn't take much convincing that they were worth the extra wait. Tracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufusrooster Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re the Wernlas delivery service.They offer a delivery service via a specialist poultry courier, but they are at the mercy of the couriers, who will only set off on a long trip once they have a full load and it is commercially viable for them. This is the only reason for the delivery service being 'unreliable', as they can wait for weeks to fill the van. The proprietors of Wernlas are 100% honest and trustworthy. They have an excellent reputation. When we picked our girls up from Wernlas, Shaun asked us if we would mind bringing a young cockerel home with us for a lady who lives about 40 miles away. He rang her whilst we were there, and told her we were willing to bring him. She then came over to ours and collected him. She had been waiting for the couriers but they only had the one order for Yorks, and were not willing to bring only him. In the event, it worked out cheaper for her, only costing her a bottle of wine, and we didn't mind at all. (She also offered us some of his fertilised eggs, once he got going, but we had to decline those for practical reasons - but it was lovely of her to offer). I suspect they arrange quite a bit of this 'informal' couriering, but obviously it depends on goodwill and having people heading in the right direction. hurrah ... arrived tonight via "informal couriering" got a totally unexpected call this afternoon telling me someone could bring them up for me this evening, arranged to go pick them up, only 35 mins away, had a quick look in subdued light and tried to see if they wanted water, will leave them now till morning, in the end i was quite looking forward to picking them out for myself but its saved me a full days travelling and a tank of fuel, although i was still charged for delivery and they gave the "informal courier" a discount of there birds, looking forward to the morning and seeing them properly, couldnt help myself either and ended up with 4 gold laced wyandotte, gold legbar, barnebar & welbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Yeh another Welbar Can't wait to see pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlotta Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I was debating between the Barnebar and a Barnvelder - the key issue was they normally cannot sex Barnvelders until 14 weeks old, I'm a bit surprised by that... I hatched some Barnvelder in the summer and it was obvious from about 4 weeks which was which. I guess it could easily vary though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAJ Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I was debating between the Barnebar and a Barnvelder - the key issue was they normally cannot sex Barnvelders until 14 weeks old, I'm a bit surprised by that... I hatched some Barnvelder in the summer and it was obvious from about 4 weeks which was which. I guess it could easily vary though! I guess they need to be 100% if selling sexed - obviously the 'bars' are autosexing, my Dorking he could sex at 6 weeks - as soon as they have chest feathers the boys and girls are so diferent. Tracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufusrooster Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Yeh another Welbar Can't wait to see pictures. 1st pics, didnt have much time when i got home from work today b4 it got dark, will try get some more pics over weekend, all 4 new Wernlas arrivals welbar, no names yet though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Chick Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 They are lovely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Lovely choices RR, congratulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAJ Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Lovely - what age are they? The headgear already looks well developed. Tracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 They are beautiful, the welbar looks to have similar colouring to the gold legbar. Do you know how old she is. My welbar is about 32 weeks but doesn't look as mature. The wyandotte is gorgeous she is very striking. I've not seen a Barnebar before her background colour looks blue but has it a brown tinge? They are all smashing. Congratulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufusrooster Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 more pics today, the only info ive been given on age is "they are all 20+ weeks the welbar and especially the gold legbar have very well developed combs and wattles, indeed i found a nice brown egg in the nestbog on getting home from work and it must be from the welbar, im guessing they are over 30 weeks old ? the wyandotte and barnebar have no combs to speak of, im guessing they are only just 20 weeks old ? its the 1st time ive seen any of thees breeds in the flesh. the barnebar does have brown flecks in the feathers and the pics ive taken and the pics i found on the net before i chose her do not do it justice, very pretty up close, the wyandotte has stunning colouring although she has no tail whatsoever, looks like its just been lopped off a bit dissapointing considering the price, i suppose its my fault for not driving down and picking them myself, welbar and gold legbar are similar but the legbar is a lot greyer on the back and noticably smaller, she has a very big floppy comb, is this common in legbars ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 my gold legbar has had a big floppy comb since October and she's showing no sign of laying. the Barnbars look stunning with sunlight on they're backs mine has a bottle green sheen that I can't capture on film she's also got the softest feathers of my 5 all 3 of my bars or about 35 weeks old so I think looking at yours are a bit older is your Barnbar stillgrowing her feathers by any chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 welbar and gold legbar are similar but the legbar is a lot greyer on the back and noticably smaller, she has a very big floppy comb, is this common in legbars ? Yes it is, this is my Wernlas bred Gold Legbar Anita: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufusrooster Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 my gold legbar has had a big floppy comb since October and she's showing no sign of laying.the Barnbars look stunning with sunlight on they're backs mine has a bottle green sheen that I can't capture on film she's also got the softest feathers of my 5 all 3 of my bars or about 35 weeks old so I think looking at yours are a bit older is your Barnbar stillgrowing her feathers by any chance i am quite new to this but to me she (barnebar) looks fully feathered, no sun on them yet either and they are all rather flighty at the moment so i havent even tried to pick them up yet, showing my ignorance here, but was does the term "bar" refer to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufusrooster Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 welbar and gold legbar are similar but the legbar is a lot greyer on the back and noticably smaller, she has a very big floppy comb, is this common in legbars ? Yes it is, this is my Wernlas bred Gold Legbar Anita: amazing i thought my gold legbar had large furniture ! ps. your girls pose with a backdrop very impressed, are they really well trained or do you have the patience of a saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Breeds with 'bar' on the end are all autosexing - the girls and boys have different feather patterns when they hatch so you immediately know what is what and many people will cull the boys straight away The 'bar' is a reference to the Barred Plymouth Rock that was used in the crosses The first part is the breed that was crossed with it originally to create the autosexing breed eg: Cambar = Campine x Barred Plymouth Rock Legbar = Leghorn x Barred Plymouth Rock I understand that the crossing isnt done anymore as they now breed true so are bred to each other same as other pure breeds, the Barred Plymouth Rock was just used to create the breed in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [ amazing i thought my gold legbar had large furniture ! ps. your girls pose with a backdrop very impressed, are they really well trained or do you have the patience of a saint People think Anita is a cockerel all the time because of her face furniture Anita does like to pose, she always looks full of attitude as her comb covers one of her eyes so she is always side on when she looks at you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I 'm lazy and I use bars or bar to refer to my legbars and barnbar why I asked about your Barnbar was the she looke like mine did at about 20 weeks when mine stated to grow new feathers and hers colour changed as for them being flytie mine were the same the Barnbar was the first to become friendly the Gold legbar is just starting to get brave and settle down not that I want her to lose to much. I've had mine since they were 10 weeks old P.S. I also don't read the posts properly I read what I thinlk it should say not what it really says so I think I missunderstood what you were asking sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 We all do that Mine had few tail feathers when I got them in October and are regrowing nicely now. I put it down to them being pecked out in the pens but they have been doing some moulting and feather replacement as well. It could be either with your girls. They will be a bit jumpy for a while till they get used to you and grow up. I found mine new girls have been very shy and flighty but I think its just being young. Eider is a changed chicken since she started crouching and there is nothing of the flighty jumpy nervy youth about her now. Amazing in just a week she is so bold and not in the least intimidated by the others. (stroppy teenager). Motmot the welbar has very little comb and not laying yet but I'm expecting a brown egg like yours when she gets round to it. The feathers on her neck are long and silky, try stroking yours its beautiful. She is also a placid calm girl, I think when she matures she's going to be smashing but it's one of the breed characteristics and why I favoured her. Tasha that comb is quite spectacular but I would want to snip it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Such pretty girls everyone. Oooh snip it off Plum??? My two youngsters seem to have huge combs that flop over like French berets. I can understand the Maran with it, but the Sussex! What on earth was in those chick crumbs?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grracee Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Nearly a year ago now I finally made the decision to get some chickens, and what a good one it was! Luckily I live about 30 - 40 mins away from the Wernlas and thats where I decided to buy my chicks from. I went there, and come home with 2 barnebars & 1 cream legbar, all 11 days old. They are now just over a year old and they are lovely! I couldn't imagine not having them. Very lovely birds from the Wernlas and excellent serivce. They lay lovely eggs, nice brown ones from the Barnebars and lovely blue eggs from my cream legbar. Since then also added 2 Buff Orpingtons to the flock, and hoping to get more! Glad theres a few more people out there who keep Barnebars, didn't really know many before My Two Barnebars, the one in the background looking abit rough and she's been going through her first moult! My Cream Legbar, also having her first moult My Buff Orp, Chesnut My Buff Orp, Honey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debbier Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Hi Grracee, Lovely pics: thelast orp looks wonderfully fluffy I got two newbies from Wernlas a while back, too: a cream legbar and a marans. Must clean out my eglu soon, but the weather is awful here today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickvic Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Gorgeous girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
