meezers Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) Here we go again. This time it's my gorgeous Favvie who isn't well. She was fine yesterday, bit slow to come in from free ranging, I had to go round her up, but that's not unusual, she's not the brightest bird in the coop, and Welly was playing truant with her, so didn't think anything of it. This morning she doidn't come out of the coop, was just huddled in the corner, so I lifted her out and she immediately went to huddle in the corner of the run. She's now in the cat carrier in the kitchen She's sleepy, head down, tail down ( very obviously so ) no discharge from eyes or nostrils. She has got a few mucky feathers round her tail end, so maybe diarreah ?.She hasn't started laying yet, so doubt she's egg bound ( though I did wonder if maybe she had her first softie on the way ? ) she was eating ok yesterday. Any ideas ? I've got an appointment at the vets later this morning, but wouldn't you klnow it , the 'chicken vet' is on holiday, I've got the 2nd choice who, I don't mean to be rude, seems to know no more than I do I'm thinking it's something gastric, if the vet suggests an antibiotic any idea which I should get him to give her ? ( this is the vet who diagnosed sour crop when Welly had a cold ) Any suggestions, please let me know and I'll post when I'm back from the vets. Edited December 14, 2009 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 a softee is the 1st thing that springs to mind. Guessing they will send you home with Baytrill.(just in case) Have you got any liquid calcium, it helps them with contractions too I beleive, sodose down the beak might help. Is she drinking lots mine do with softees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezers Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Unfortunately Favvie didn't make it. I didn't see the vet I saw before ( thank goodness ) I had an older vet who seemed to know what he was doing. He checked her over thouroughly, and was a bit stumped, she seemed fine apart from being very sleepy and floppy. When he listened with the stethoscope he thought her breathing sounded a bit laboured so thought she may have the beginnings of a respiratory infection. He prescribed some drops for her water and gave her an injection of baytril - unfortunately it was the injection that did it , Favvie started fitting then died on the table. The vet was so apologetic, I was trying to make him feel better he said he'd usually inject under the skin as it doesn't sting so much, but he wanted to get the antibiotics working as quickly as pos , as Favvie really didn't look too good, so he injected into the muscle and it was the shock of that that killed her. Of course , I'm now wondering if I hadn't taken her to the vets whether she'd still be alive ( both Welly and Elsie got through respiratory infections without veterinary treatment ) seems I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. I've told OH not to let me take anymore chooks to the vets. So word of advice to anyone whose chook needs an injection - ask them to inject under the skin, not into the muscle, the risk of death by shock is very small, but it does happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 So sorry Meezers what a shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dappy Chick Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I am so sorry Thank u for the warning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogprincess Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Oh dear, I'm so sorry for you - I'm having a little cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 oh how sad, sorry to hear it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 unfortunately it was the injection that did it , Favvie started fitting then died on the table. The vet was so apologetic, I was trying to make him feel better he said he'd usually inject under the skin as it doesn't sting so much, but he wanted to get the antibiotics working as quickly as pos , as Favvie really didn't look too good, so he injected into the muscle and it was the shock of that that killed her. Of course , I'm now wondering if I hadn't taken her to the vets whether she'd still be alive ( both Welly and Elsie got through respiratory infections without veterinary treatment ) seems I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. I've told OH not to let me take anymore chooks to the vets. I am so sorry to hear about your hen. I'm no vet, but I would be inclined to think it was the respiratory infection that killed her and not the injection . Our hens are injected all the time with Baytril when they have an infection (hubby does it) and we've had no ill affects. Our first chicken Sam died of a respiratory infection, she was on tylan & Baytril before she passed away but the infection took hold and she spasmed/fitted and died right in front of me - so it wasn't shock with her, it was the infection. Please don't blame yourself, the respiratory infection could have been further along than first suspected and could have just worn her out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathybc Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 sorry to hear your news x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezers Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 I am so sorry to hear about your hen. I'm no vet, but I would be inclined to think it was the respiratory infection that killed her and not the injection . Our hens are injected all the time with Baytril when they have an infection (hubby does it) and we've had no ill affects. Our first chicken Sam died of a respiratory infection, she was on tylan & Baytril before she passed away but the infection took hold and she spasmed/fitted and died right in front of me - so it wasn't shock with her, it was the infection. Please don't blame yourself, the respiratory infection could have been further along than first suspected and could have just worn her out. Thanks Chelsea. I keep telling myself that the infection would probably have killed her anyway - but of course I keep thinking 'what if?' Doesn't help that she was fine the night before and the vet wasn't too sure what was wrong with her either, more or less guessed at an infection as he couldn't find anything else. I do miss her, she was such a cuddly big baby of a hen , I think if I was in the same situation again I'd have to ask the vet not to inject into the muscle just incase, I'd never forgive myself if it happened again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia W Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 They are so good at hiding things that it's only when it's serious that it becomes obvious to you. Like Chelsea, I'd guess it was the infection and not the injection. But whatever it was, I'm very sorry you've had to lose her. Tricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I agree with Chelsea's opinion, they can go downhill very quickly with undiagnosed chest infections. the injection is unlikely to have killed her; I have injected my hens countless times (into the muscle) and not had any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophelia Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 One of my chickens passed away today with similar symptons. Yesterday she was fine but today she didn't come out of the coop and was hunched over with her eyes closed. She didn't even complain when I picked her up. I took her to the vet who didn't know exactly what was wrong with her but thought it could be an infection casued by some pecking she received from ther other hens. She vomitted when he gave her an injection. I kept her wrapped up warm in front of the fire for the rest of the day. She passed away this afternoon after having a fit. It probably wasn't the injection that killed your girl but we all feel guilty that we didn't do enough or made the wrong decisions when all we can do is our best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...