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[2charlies]

I posted a few days ago about a chicken with constant runny poo, and I have another question. I have had the girls 7 weeks. They were supposedly wormed before they left the breeders and I did them with verm-x in the water after I had had them 4 weeks, and they have just been done again. However this morning I noticed a minute thread like worm near a runny poo. It was moving about like a 'loopa' type caterpillar. Am I right in thinking this could be a parasitic worm? If so am I doing the right thing using verm-x as in this case I am not sure if it is effective, or should I use some thing else? Also do you suggest some ground sanitising powder as the run is not moveable? Thanks for any advice.

[Plum]

It's probably a sign that Verm-x is doing it's job. Some people have experienced worms still present after using Verm-x and find Flubenvet effective.

[Heidi-Hi]

A lot of people use VermX, and are totally happy with it. I've got 9 chickens and just wasnt sure that everyone was getting their share, so I zapped them with Flubenvet. Not sure about the run, perhaps Stalosan? That is a disinfectant as far as I know. Good luck!

[Space Chick]

. It was moving about like a 'loopa' type caterpillar. Am I right in thinking this could be a parasitic worm? If so am I doing the right thing using verm-x as in this case I am not sure if it is effective, or should I use some thing else? Also do you suggest some ground sanitising powder as the run is not moveable? Thanks for any advice.

 

It is was MOVING then the Verm X has NOT done its job, any worms so should very much dead. If your girl has passed a live worm then this indicates a VERY SERIOUS worm load.

 

Personally, I would not touch Verm X with a barge pole (but I have a flock of 15) I will only use Flubenvet, as in my experience this is the best way to KILL worm loads. I know some people claim that Verm X is effective as a preventative.

 

If I was you, I would get some Flubenvet pronto, and then as the seems to be a substantial worm load (although check their poos whilst they are on it) repeat in one month.

[2charlies]

Just out of interest, do you have to withdraw eggs with Flubenvet? (Not that that is really a problem since we have not had any yet!). Thanks for your advice, I will get on with a new plan of action.

[Egluntyne]

There is no egg withdrawal with Flubenvet.

[Christian]

Lots of info about Flubenvet in the FAQs **here**

[sandyhas3chucks]

verm x does not kill worms, it is meant to make the environment inhospitable to the parasites.

not a fan of it myself, garlic would do the same!

can't beat flub in my book

[Hengirl07780]

Verm-X killed the worms in my ex-bats and now keeps them worm free (I have 2 egg counts a year with my vet). There is a lot more to Verm-X than just garlic! Natural parasite control is fascinating when you research it, a shame some people don't know enough and reach straight for chemicals.

[Bramble]

Verm-X killed the worms in my ex-bats and now keeps them worm free (I have 2 egg counts a year with my vet). There is a lot more to Verm-X than just garlic! Natural parasite control is fascinating when you research it, a shame some people don't know enough and reach straight for chemicals

This is reassuring, thanks!! I've just wormed for the first time with vermX and am much happier using it than I think I would be with flubenvet, but I am quite concerned about the negative reaction vermX gets. Do you "just do what it says on the tin" with VermX, or do you give more of it/more often than the instructions say? Also think it smells rather nice too (least I'll be okay if I develop a taste for dried mealworms, I'll be able to wash them down with VermX!!)

[sandyhas3chucks]

Verm-X killed the worms in my ex-bats and now keeps them worm free (I have 2 egg counts a year with my vet). There is a lot more to Verm-X than just garlic! Natural parasite control is fascinating when you research it, a shame some people don't know enough and reach straight for chemicals.

Oh dear this has been covered debated heated and otherwise at length.

The fact of the matter still is that it is not a wormer.

It is not sold as a wormer

It is not allowed to be sold as wormer

It controls,

There is nothing wrong with natural or herbal, I am a huge fan.

However I personally.. and I have read that others, used Vermx as directed and still had horrendous worms.

This needs to be clearly understood and taken into account should you have poorly girls at any time, and need to use a wormer.

the following are VermX quotes:

Having an effective product that contains herbs able to control internal parasites, condition the gut and promote health is, for me, a revelation...

Verm-X is fed over a period of time (see each pack for details) and works to create an environment in the gut and digestive system that is uninhabitable to parasites. The regular feeding of Verm-X ensures the effectiveness is ongoing.

Verm-X consists of herbs that have been used for centuries as a natural way to repel and control internal parasites

Verm-X works by ‘building’ an environment in the gut which is inhospitable to internal parasites which can take several days.

Can I use Verm-X along with a conventional worming routine?

Yes. Verm-X can be used on its own all year round. It can also be used as part of a rotational programme.

Edited August 25, 2010 by Guest

[Jools]

I beg to differ Sandy. As you know, I use Verm-x and have annual droppings samples analysed by Retfords to make sure of its effectiveness.

 

I've posted before about a hen I rehomed. I used Verm-x liquid as per my normal routine and found dead worms in her droppings. She's now with one of my other groups of hens, whose samples tested clear last time.

 

I realise that you've had recurring problems with worms in your rescue hens despite treating monthly with Flubenvet, but that doesn't mean that Verm-x doesn't work.

 

There is no one panacea, just different weapons in our armoury against parasites. Some prefer Flubenvet or Ivermectin, others prefer Verm-x or other natural methods. What works for some doesn't always work for others. It's horses for courses ..... and if it ain't broke, there's certainly no need to fix it.

[abwsco]

Jools, how much does the poo sampling cost and how much poo do you send along for testing?

[Christian]

Here we go again

 

Some love Vermx, some love Flubenvet. Each to their own. Use what you find effective and may we all live in peace.

[Christian]

Jools, how much does the poo sampling cost and how much poo do you send along for testing?

 

I think it is around the £20 mark? Ish? A small sample, just one poo will do!

[abwsco]

Jools, how much does the poo sampling cost and how much poo do you send along for testing?

 

I think it is around the £20 mark? Ish? A small sample, just one poo will do!

 

Which poo do you choose though. I have one who does mahoosive ones and one who does very dianty ones. Is the thinking if one is clear they all are?

[sandyhas3chucks]

yes Jools.

I only quoted from their own website, and DID say that it just needed to be remembered if you have chooks get poorly.

If I hadn't actually seen the fresh poo moving with worms and as a newbie NOT read all the info I might have lost girls.

Their own website IS carefully worded to comply with regulations

I personally find garlic is perfectly effective at repelling worms with dogs, mine has been wormed maybe 2 or 3 times in her life.

The other thing about Vermx is making it inhospitable for worms, which is really good.

When you "worm" you only don't have worms during the treatment, doesn't mean that on day 8 they can't go straight out and eat something that reinfects them, this is where Vermx comes into it's own.

Don't wory folks, Jools and I aren't arguing, just continuing the educational debate.

Right Jools