soapdragon Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I was watching a 'diet and fitness myth' programe a few days ago and they stated that ready made bread included chicken feathers as an ingredient - we make all our own bread but I was still horrified to hear this.......sadly they did not go into details of how, why and how much! Can anyone throw any light on this ...... or how its done Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I've heard that too - there's a flour improver (name escapes me) which is derived from protein and the most commonly used source is usually human hair if I remember rightly, the same ingredient could also be found in animal hair and poultry feathers, although I doubt that these are used in commercial production. Now you know why I make our own bread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Oh, yuck! We have a Kenwood mixer and make all our own bread with flour (of varing sorts and combinations) , olive oil, very small amount of salt and sugar,yeast and water! We can work it into our routine in terms of mixing/rising etc tho sometimes its a faff (esp focaccia!!) but at least we feel in control of what we are eating and feeding the boys! I was horrified to hear about the chicken feathers thing!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I saw that programme, and was also rather ! I have pretty much given up eating bread because it doesn't agree with me, but having watched that I realised that it may be the additives used in most bread that are the problem. I might try making my own again, I've got a Kenwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thank goodness for coeliac disease is all I can say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Oh, thanks for that info re; moving of the thread.........would be helpful to know when a thread has been moved so can keep up with it!!! We dont eat loads of bread but do make all our own as we weer concerned as to the amount of additives in commercial bread! I have heard that, if you are concerned about your diet, you should not eat anything that your grandmother would not recognise!!!!! Sort of makes sense tho!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatieB Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Soapdragon you can always find your thread by pressing "view your posts" at the top of the page just underneath the omlet header. The list of your threads state what category they are in too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thanks, CatieB but I still think it would be helpful to know when/why a thread has been moved !!! This did really horrify me and I wanted to keep tabs on the responses so that I could understand, hopefully, what was going on. The programme, rather irresponsibly, did not go into further details and I just could not understand where the chichen feathers came in!! Digressing slightly, apparently 'someone' poss in opposition to the Govn't, is calling for so called purer food for children in order to 'stop' childhood obesity.....is it not about time that food maunufacturers were, by law,made to be more transparent about the contents of their products? You cannot MAKE people consume 'better' food but possiby more education is needed!!!?? Or maybe I am just inhabiting La-la land!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Ordinarily a shadow topic remains when a thread is moved. I expect it was just a glitch. Shadow topics are then removed first thing in the following morning, otherwise there would be nothing else in the NB as often people post there instead of the correct section. Back to the discussion of feather flavoured bread! I've never been more thankful that I don't eat it than after reading this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Chick Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I get horrendous stomach pains when I eat commercially produced bread, but I'm fine when i eat my own. I always suspected it was as a result of the Chorleywood process, but now think that my body is revolting to chicken feathers What channel was it on and what was the programme called? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Digressing slightly, apparently 'someone' poss in opposition to the Govn't, is calling for so called purer food for children in order to 'stop' childhood obesity.....is it not about time that food maunufacturers were, by law,made to be more transparent about the contents of their products? You cannot MAKE people consume 'better' food but possiby more education is needed!!!?? Or maybe I am just inhabiting La-la land!!! I think that the same people will remain concerned about what they are eating whilst those who never care will continue that way; I don't think much will change TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowberry Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 If it's this: Channel 5 '50 shocking facts about diet & exercise' is starting NOW 10.45pm Saturday, ch 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Yes, Snowberry, thats the one! It was interesting but mainly lots of common sense (ie; germs in the gym etc!) Dogmother, you are right! Either people do care or they don't and theres not much you can do to change people if they are so set in their ways.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowberry Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I agree. You can try to shock people with the full facts, but denial often wins over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Personally I have lost weight and kept it off by cutting down greatly on carbs (only at one meal a day now) and sugar. I try to eat protein, don't worry too much about fat (I have high cholesterol but it the 'good' sort, apparently!) and generally try to shun processed food (who knows whats in it...I still can't get my head round chicken feathers in bread!) Have read a lot about various diets and it seems to make sense to me that we are still programmed to eat more or less what the hunter/gatheres did...meat, berries, nuts, fruit and veg etc and that our bodies cannot cope adequatley with the sugar and carbs that we now load them with. I can't help but feel that there will be problems in the future for those who overload their bodies with all the additives, hydrogenated this and that stuff etc Sorry- Will step down from my soapbox now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavenders_Blue Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Yuck yuck yuck! Off to get a breadmaker methinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Chick Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I try to eat protein, don't worry too much about fat (I have high cholesterol but it the 'good' sort, apparently!) and generally try to shun processed food I can't help but feel that there will be problems in the future for those who overload their bodies with all the additives, hydrogenated this and that stuff etc Sorry- Will step down from my soapbox now!!! I agree with you completely so will join you on the soapbox if you have room I used to work in cancer services, and got very chatty and friendly with a few consultants. One of them dealt with colon cancers. He would NEVER eat processed food, shop bought breads, packaged meats, and refined carbs and sugars. He would however, eat some fats, brown rice, homemade granary bread etc etc He also said that hydrogenated fats and additives were FAR more damaging to the liver than a moderate to high alcohol consumption and he was a fan of a Mediterranean diet where wine was part of the meal. I ate (and drunk) very well when he invited a few of us to dinner. Even though I was passionate at the time at making everything from scratch, his wise words turned me positively evangelical about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Me too Debs, I try not to eat anything processed and keep our diet as natural as possible... time to get back on the wagon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavenders_Blue Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Breadmaker purchased How clever of Father Christmas to bring me just the right amount of John Lewis vouchers to buy one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Breadmaker purchased How clever of Father Christmas to bring me just the right amount of John Lewis vouchers to buy one! Some things are just meant to be!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
good_egg Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 You've inspired me to be a good girl again. Used to make everything, but since I changed job have been rather lax. I feel a new years resolution coming on! I put on weight since I started seeing OH as ate more carbs, he needed carbs to take insulin as type 1 diabetic and felt I'll if not taking minimum insulin. Interestingly now on insulin pump and not the same issue (but we still eat the carbs)!! Not really relevant to feathers in bread but there you go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Have just made two loaves with six seeded flour and a good glug of olive oil (plus the usual water, yeast and tiny amount of salt and sugar.) Scrummy; too scrummy though and the smell is better than any air freshner. Have now ordered 5 1kilo pack of this fab flour - can even manage to eat it without the requosite slab of unsalted butter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I use (probably) the same flour and it does make delicious bread. I also have one with malted grains, which gives a lovely taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 That must be the Wessex Cobbler flour from Wessex mill - has a pic of King Alfred on the front if I recall (too lazy to go down to the kichen and check!) YS cannot cope with the 'granary grains' as they make him retch I 'cut' the 6 seed one and make 2lbs with 1lb 8oz 6 seed and 8oz plain white as it can be a bit heavy at 100%! This makes 3 smallish round loaves so we dont end up throwing too many 'ends' in the food waste - which we do with two 1lb loaves. The olive oil makes it very moist and gives a beautiful springy texture; sorry I'm a bit of a breadmaking evangelist and could rabbit on for hours - I love experimenting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 No, not boring; I make mine exactly the same way and cut the flour too. Our staple recipe is 3/4 wholemeal or seeded flour, 1/4 white flour and added omega seeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
