tommy64 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 hughs chicken run tonight on channel 4 9pm will encourage people and shop managers to stop using battery eggs in their products and selling battery hens for people to eat hugh will be talking to the tesco manager and he just cant say no that would be bad for the reputation of the company.I hope everybody will be watching. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I agree - it should make for provocative & interesting viewing. The amount of people I have seen in Tesco with Finest brand this & that,then a great big tray of value eggs - it makes me sickened & sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little chickadee Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hurrah - Hubby will be watching while doing the ironing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaxsmith Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I've just read in a newspaper that Tesco won't be removing battery eggs because they have a reputation for providing food for all budgets but that they are improving labelling and reducing the shelf space for battery eggs. I think a lot of the labelling is misleading. My Mum served up some 'Big and Yellow' (or somesuch) eggs when I was staying at her's and it was only on close inspection of the numbers on the shells that I could see they were from caged hens. I also hope that this doesn't become another 'middle class' type crusade that means that only those who can afford to buy better eggs and meat will do so. The others will shrug and say they're just doing what they can on a budget. Which is fair enough, in my opinion. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I also hope that this doesn't become another 'middle class' type crusade that means that only those who can afford to buy better eggs and meat will do so. The others will shrug and say they're just doing what they can on a budget. Which is fair enough, in my opinion. Jo I'm on a tight budget but i still would never contemplate battery eggs or cheap chicken. There's ways of juggling a budget. In fact, it was because of a post I saw in www.moneysavingexpert.com that we now have our own chickens. People who use that excuse are just copping out! There is NO excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treekeeper Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 You have to give people the choice and then let them make an informed decision.Until I started keeping my own and looking into the battery situation in depth I didn't know what sort of conditions they were kept in,we have always bought free range eggs as a matter of course and now I know so much more about the situation I'm glad we did. Also just been on the new BHWT site and now instead of getting some pure breeds to add to my Pepperpots I am now looking into getting some ex-batts.( Just need to get the bigger run built and now the wire arrived this AM I've got no excuse!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftyhunnypie Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 If I was on a tight budget, then I'd probably be vegetarian - if I couldn't afford free range chicken & eggs. I must admit that although I eat meat, I do very often buy quorn nowadays instead & make a lot of veggie dishes! If you really must have chicken & still say you can't afford free range - then the answer is simple......have it less blommin' often!!!! Emma.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I'm on a tight budget but i still would never contemplate battery eggs or cheap chicken. There's ways of juggling a budget. I completely agree, to say you cannot afford free range eggs these days is just an excuse....they are not out of budget for anyone. And if you watch the deals free range chicken pieces are cheap...I bought 2 packs of chicken legs (all free range) from Sainsburys on Friday for £3.50 - if I bung them in the slow cooker with some stuff they will be a cheap meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaxsmith Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Absolutely, I would like to think that however tight things get I wouldn't buy battery eggs BUT that's me, knowing a little about its production. A lot of people don't really care and don't want to be enlightened. By the way, I think maybe the argument about not buying battery eggs and intensively reared chicken is concentrating too much on the raw product that is available on the shelves. I would assume that by far the greatest volume of these products are ingredients in other things you can buy. For example, I wouldn't dream of buying a cheap chicken but I would bet money that the one in the chicken tikka masala I got from the takeaway on Friday night wasn't free range or that the eggs used in the yummy desserts from Tesco's chilled section were from caged birds. I believe that M&S have removed battery eggs from their recipes but not sure about intensively farmed chicken. Which goes back to my argument about it being about cost and becoming a middle class crusade - who can afford to shop at M&S all the time! Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 The issue I have is that unless you never buy products that contain eggs then you are certainly not eating only free range eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 but I would bet money that the one in the chicken tikka masala I got from the takeaway on Friday night wasn't free range Jo i rang our local takeaway and they don't use free range chicken, I didn't expect that they would TBH. I make my own favourite takeaway meal now with free range chicken AND it's cheaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 The issue I have is that unless you never buy products that contain eggs then you are certainly not eating only free range eggs very good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) i also don't buy egg pasta any more, i buy drum wheat instead. Most things like cakes, mayo etc, I now make myself as it's a good way to use up our eggs. i don't buy battery eggs or anything containing battery eggs, it really isn't that difficult. And, if i can't make it myself, i would do without but there's nothing i can recall that i've had to give up so far. Edited January 7, 2008 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 i also don't buy egg pasta any more I j ust make it with our girls eggs. Pasta has to be the easiest dough ever. It must be if I can make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 i also don't buy egg pasta any more I j ust make it with our girls eggs. Pasta has to be the easiest dough ever. It must be if I can make it. i was thinking of buying a pasta machine, do you need one to make pasta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 i also don't buy egg pasta any more I j ust make it with our girls eggs. Pasta has to be the easiest dough ever. It must be if I can make it. I didnt even know egg was in pasta! I always check my packets and have never seen egg in it....I must have chosen well...luckily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 forgot to say, it's the same with noodles but you can get noodles without egg in. i always check the ingredients if i'm not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I dont think you do as I've known of it to be rolled by hand. Mine tends to be lasagne sheets so I do use one asI'm far too lazy and not a good enough cook to manage otherwise. Hehe I'm not going to start people buying things am I? Worth asking on freecycle because its one of those things people buy with best intentions then never use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I dont think you do as I've known of it to be rolled by hand. Mine tends to be lasagne sheets so I do use one asI'm far too lazy and not a good enough cook to manage otherwise. Hehe I'm not going to start people buying things am I? Worth asking on freecycle because its one of those things people buy with best intentions then never use i'd find a cheap one on ebay or try freecycle, don't worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geb0205 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I dont know if I want to watch this or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couperman Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I don't have a problem with 'middle class crusades' or people who choose to buy their food according to their budget. I think if people who can comfortably afford to buy free range 'expensive' great tasting chicken do just that, then eventually market forces will change, prices willl drop and everyone will benefit. People buying value cheap food in order to save money to fuel their BMW are the ones who need the guilt trip, not those on the bread line. I know some feel strongly about this regardless of budget but some simply don't, and as they see it there are bigger things for them to worry about. It was interesting to see which supermarkets were prepared to get involved with the latest campaigns, none of the big four. As far as Quorn goes if you knew where it came from you would stick to veg, or meat for that matter. I admire Hugh for his guts in producing a programme he is clearly not entirely comfortable with to try and get his point across. Kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menagerie Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 where does quorn come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftyhunnypie Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 yeah where DOES quorn come from???? Emma.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 "Production Quorn is made from the soil mold Fusarium venenatum strain PTA-2684 (previously misidentified as the parasitic mold Fusarium graminearum). The fungus is grown in continually oxygenated water in large, sterile fermentation tanks. During the growth phase glucose is added as a food for the fungus, as are various vitamins and minerals (to improve the food value of the resulting product). The resulting mycoprotein is then extracted and heat-treated to remove excess levels of RNA. Previous attempts at producing such fermented protein foodstuffs were thwarted by excessive levels of DNA or RNA; without the heat treatment, purine, found in nucleic acids, is metabolised producing uric acid, which can lead to gout.[10] The product is then dried and mixed with chicken egg albumen, which acts as a binder...." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couperman Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 where does quorn come from? If I remember rightly the stuff Quorn is made from is a by product of effluent from chemical plants, pioneered by ICI to reduce biological impact on water systems . Said effluent is fed through a reed bed, bugs then feast on it as do the reeds and the resultant gunge secreted is then processed to become Quorn and the cleaned effluent doesn't cause algal blooms in the river etc. There isn't anything harmful in it as it is mostly protein but it is essentailly bug poo. I can't remember whether it is bugs as in insects or bugs as in bacteria or fungus. Anyhow I have seen the facility that finishes the product, and it is a very clean plant as these places go. So nothing to worry about there It was about fifteen years ago, but i think the details are vaguely correct! see here for a completely baffling sciency thing, it's a mycoprotein apparently http://www.uoguelph.ca/~hlee/418chap2.htm Kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
