Mrs Frugal Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 ... the publicity hungry Goody. .... You don't apply for a place on Big Brother if you want to avoid publicity ! However, that was not the point I was trying to make. My point was that another young mother died in tragic circumstances last week, leaving 2 young boys and yet no one mentioned her death here and this is probably because, despite being a very talented actress and a real loss to the acting world, she was not permanently in the tabloid headlines for one reason or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 That is a good point, Kate, and statistically, I bet one is far more likely to die from a cerebral bleed following a head injury than from cervical cancer at the age of 27, so let's hope that lessons will be learned, and legislation changed following Natasha Richardson's untimely death. Bizarrely, I saw a woman riding a bicycle only yesterday, with a child on a rear seat. The child had an all singing all dancing day glo pink cycle hat on, but the mother wasn't wearing a cycle helmet at all Where is the logic in that? *shrugs* I found myself hoping that she was carrying a donor card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Frugal Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Exactly, Egluntine. I haven't seen much coverage in the media to say that Natasha Richardson died because she wasn't wearing a safety helmet on the ski slopes and yet that could have saved her life or more importantly, going to hospital after the fall and getting the injury checked out instead of saying all was well. Head injuries happen so easily. Last year, my Dad fell backwards during a family picnic and banged his head hard on the ground. Fortunately he was OK but this brings home to us how lucky he was and how easily it could have gone the other way. Head injuries are so easily brushed aside as a bump on the head and yet they can kill you. So much more awareness could have been raised through this accident and yet as she wasn't such a familiar face and name, the coverage of the accident and what ultimately caused her death wasn't as widespread as Jade's fight against cervical cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 You will know that head injuries are something that I am very aware of after what happened to my Mum. She fell in her kitchen & hit her head on the Aga, thought nothing of it, then collapsed while coming down the stairs a couple of days later. She had had a huge bleed, needed surgery & was brain damaged for the rest of her life.She died 5 years after this accident,after being in a care home since leaving hospital. So sad, & like Natasha's accident,totally preventable. Natasha Richardson was a super actress & was the epitome of the phrase 'English rose', & her death saddened me terribly. I do hope that Liam Neeson is strong enough to cope with this terrible loss, & doesn't go off the rails as he has before, the poor man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I read an article the other day and someone commented that they wouldn't be amazed if her illness was all a con and a big publicity stunt and that in weeks to come we would see her make a "miraculous recovery" - how sick and contrived is that?? I'd rather associate with 100 Jade Goody's than the lowlife that made such a callous and sickening remark. I was one of the people who thought tha might happen. I didn't think her illness was a con but I did think she would make a "miraculous recovery" It wasn't a reflection on Jade but that I thought the person who was handling the publicity would manipulate her into it. Jade bless her was never the brightest individual and if she had made the miraculous recovery I was expecting I would have thought she had been used by someone far cleverer than her. I don't think it's a callous and sickening thing to think - the person we are talking about here is NOT any sort of saint - HE is someone who would probably sell his own granny for a good story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I have to say I heard this story about Natasha on the news and I'm still wondering who she is. IMDB hasn't helped me either as I wouldn't have recognised her in the street. - but that might just be me! Its the real publicity hungry people like Jade who are best known and its brilliant that she's raised awareness. Kylie Minogue did it brilliantly too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Frugal Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I have to say I heard this story about Natasha on the news and I'm still wondering who she is. IMDB hasn't helped me either as I wouldn't have recognised her in the street. - but that might just be me! Its the real publicity hungry people like Jade who are best known and its brilliant that she's raised awareness. Kylie Minogue did it brilliantly too. She wasn't a particularly well known actress, but a good one. She didn't make many films but concentrated on the theatre. However, she was in "A Month In The Country" and that's how I know of her. She was superb in that alongside Colin Firth, Kenneth Brannagh and Patrick Malahide. She kept herself out of the media spotlight and brought up her children quietly and enjoyed a long and apparently happy marriage to Liam Neeson. I much prefer the celebrities who keep themselves to themselves instead of allowing every aspect of their lives to be plastered across the media. As Sarah has said, she was a true English Rose and had real class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 As much as i loathe reality TV i also loathe newpapers. However, some stupid woman in there was beratng people who had put down Jade for not offering nothing? 'And should hang their heads in shame.' ??? Correction Love, the industry you work for should hang their head in shame (ie the media - of which you write for) and therefore includes you. As said a bunch of hypocrites and ghouls. Whatever Jade might have been etc, as said i was nonetheless very saddened as i would have been for anyone in the same situation, but it doesn't exonerate you sick lot to have short memories and of guilt, and pulling out all stops, including every step of someones decline and eventual death, just to sell your gutter press rags. The offer a sixteen page tribute. You sick lot. But Jade courted the publicity herself both when she was alive & at the end of her life, didn't she? She WANTED the press to be there, she asked for them so that she could publicise her situation, her illness & her demise. And good for her for doing that, & good on the press too. If one young womans life is saved because of this,its worth it. My teenagers have already asked when they can start having smear tests. I don't think that they had even heard of them before Jades illness. I am not saying that the press are blame free, but if anyone knows how to work the press to its best advantage,its Max Clifford, Jades publisist. Whichever way you look at it,Jades short time of fame & her sad death are very much symbols of how we live today. That's exactly what my partner said, Cinnamon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 You will know that head injuries are something that I am very aware of after what happened to my Mum. She fell in her kitchen & hit her head on the Aga, thought nothing of it, then collapsed while coming down the stairs a couple of days later. She had had a huge bleed, needed surgery & was brain damaged for the rest of her life.She died 5 years after this accident,after being in a care home since leaving hospital. So sad, & like Natasha's accident,totally preventable. Natasha Richardson was a super actress & was the epitome of the phrase 'English rose', & her death saddened me terribly. I do hope that Liam Neeson is strong enough to cope with this terrible loss, & doesn't go off the rails as he has before, the poor man. Luminous I think you could call her. A shining example of the Redgrave Dynasty. Awful about your Mum. So sorry. This must have brought it all back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessa the Duchess Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I am not saying that the press are blame free, but if anyone knows how to work the press to its best advantage,its Max Clifford, Jades publisist. I heard an interview with Mr. Clifford he said that he himself had quite recently had cancer of the prostate and coped with it in the exact opposite way from Jade, he told "Ooops, word censored!"ody apart from his immediate family, he said he couldn't have done it the way Jade did, but it was her choice. I hate reality tv and avoid it and it's 'stars' like the plague, however the Jade story was unavoidable. Tessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Max Clifford is laughing all the way to the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Max Clifford is laughing all the way to the bank. That's what annoys me about the whole thing; she's never been the sharpest knife in the drawer, but she's been exploited until her last minute. The media exposure probably wouldn't have occurred to her without the vultures! I was so saddened by Natasha's needless death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Max Clifford is laughing all the way to the bank. That's what annoys me about the whole thing; she's never been the sharpest knife in the drawer, but she's been exploited until her last minute. The media exposure probably wouldn't have occurred to her without the vultures! I was so saddened by Natasha's needless death I totally agree! and Natasha was such a lovely woman, I saw her in a couple of films, she always seemed such a gentle soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagazer Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I too was saddened by Natasha's sudden death. I'd never seen her in any plays but had seen a few films - especially Parent Trap (the remake). I think her death will make me more aware of the dangers of any bumps to the head. I thought Liam Neeson has handled all the press really well. There was only a little bit on her funeral in the news the other day. There is a museum in Covent Garden - I think its for the theatre (memory definitely not what it should be) and there is a large part of it given over to the Redgrave Dynasty. I went a couple of years ago. It was very interesting. They were quite a family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 The difference between the two deaths couldn't be greater could it? Liam Neeson looked just devasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanbb Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 At the end of the day, two young women have died. Two mothers have lost their daughters before them. Two husbands have lost their wives and sadly 2 lots of children have lost their mother in tragic circumstances. Truly a sad and devastating situation for all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Truly sad but life goes on. Just the state funeral now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Just the state funeral now. I fear you might be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I am worried that with all this lionising of Jade Goody, some people will miss the important message behind her death. For all my dislike of her and all that she stood for, I can only commend the way that she was determined to use her death to promote awareness of cervical cancer, its causes and the need for prompt treatment. It has given me the chance to explain to Rosie (11) about the causes of cervical cancer, the legacy of promiscuity and the need for safe sex, regular testing and prompt treatment. I thank her for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I agree with all you say, but desperately hope that the funeral will be a private family affair and not a media feeding frenzy, which will detract from the important message that her terrible experience has sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I agree with all you say, but desperately hope that the funeral will be a private family affair and not a media feeding frenzy, which will detract from the important message that her terrible experience has sent. Well, it won't be a quiet family affair. Its going to be a public funeral, with a big screen TV outside so any well wishers who turn up will be able to see the service. But, thats what Jade wanted, she planned it all herself before her death, & I guess it will be a final burst of publicity for cervical cancer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I agree with all you say, but desperately hope that the funeral will be a private family affair and not a media feeding frenzy, which will detract from the important message that her terrible experience has sent. Well, it won't be a quiet family affair. Its going to be a public funeral, with a big screen TV outside so any well wishers who turn up will be able to see the service. But, thats what Jade wanted, she planned it all herself before her death, & I guess it will be a final burst of publicity for cervical cancer too. Yes, just read in the paper it is what she wanted - the big do. She is being buried in her wedding dress. I think it is nice she has made it so that people can go and pay their final respects - even if they didnt know her. Just by seeing the flower tributes it shows her story has touched a lot of people. I think a lot of people related to her, cancer sufferers and people who had a similar sad upbringing like she had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
