Egluntyne Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Yes, King Alfred. They are on the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_H Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 There are more missing monarchs . See eg. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-19487335 H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortle Chook Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I've got a little left behind on the R111 events. Do York think he should be re-interred there as he was the last of the Yorkists or have I got that wrong? If so then it would seem reasonable for him to go there. And if not York then I think Leicester should keep him as Westminster has enough when it comes to tourist foot fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurmurf Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Yorkies believe that he should be brought home to York Minster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottechicken Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I heard somewhere that he wanted to be buried in York, he lived in Yorkshire, didn't he? Middleham Castle I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_H Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 I'm sure it agreed/decided ages ago, after the Royals were consulted and protocols checked . He will be buried in Leicester Cathedral. 1. it was a condition made BEFORE they were allowed to dig him up 2. it is convention to re-inter any remains in the NEAREST consecrated ground which is Leicester Catherdral. H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Having had a lifelong passion for the Tudors and their heirs, I found this fascinating. I've long been on the belief that Richard had nothing to do with the deaths of the boys in the Tower, I blame the Mother of Henry VII, Lady Margaret Beaufort for orchestrating it. Her entire life revolved around her beloved only child reaching the throne, I don't think there is anything she would've let stand in the way. She was ruthless and manipulative. It certainly paid off. I don't think Henry had it in him to order the deaths of two innocent boys. She certainly did. I would dearly love for the boys alleged remains to be DNA tested, if possible, to find out once and for all if it was them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 They've declined this already, on the basis (partly) that if it proved not to be the princes, then the Abbey would have to decide what to do with the remains, and also that in order to get DNA for comparison purposes they would have to open another tomb. And of course, even if proved to be the princes, it wouldn't answer whether they were murdered, and if so who organised it. Richard III did indeed live at Middleham, and there is a ruined castle there which belonged to him. But Leicester has a memorial to him, and as I recall (it's some 30 years since I lived in Leicester) had a rather nice statue in one of the green spaces near the city centre, with a plaque saying that his burial place was unknown. They'll have to change that now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't like not knowing things! Regardless of who the skeletons belong to, I'd leave them in the Abbey but I really really want to know if it is them or if they secretly lived out their lives in exile *stamps foot and starts writing to the Queen....* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 All seems to have gone quiet following the press conference and general bruhaha.....has anyone heard what the next move is or when the interment might be? Would there be a 'proper' service/funeral or would it be very low key? I suppose it could turn into a bit of a media circus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottechicken Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I know it is not famed for being particularly accurate, but this is what wikipedia says The Mayor of Leicester announced that the king's skeleton would be re-interred at Leicester Cathedral in early 2014, and by the same date a museum to Richard III will be opened in the Victorian school buildings next to the grave site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplemaniacs Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I heard spring next year on the radio this morning. Chrissie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Thanks for that, both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_H Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 It was part of the terms of the licence enabling them to dig the bones up that they would be re-interred by August 2014. The R3 Society have designed a 'tomb' but the design has yet to be agreed. The Catherdral have the final say in the design. H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_H Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Channel 4 Commissioning Editor John Hay has ordered a special follow-up programme for More4, to build on the success of the world exclusive Richard III: The King in the Car Park. http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/following-hit-doc-more4-to-screen-richard-iii-the-unseen-story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Today's Daily Mail reports that a petition has been signed by 23,000 people requesting that Richard be buried in York. Apparently 9 of his descendents have also written a letter (not sure to whom!) with the same request.........wonder what he would have made of this wrangling over his bones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saronne Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 9 of his descendants?! They had to go all the way to Canada to find the one whose DNA matched the remains. I'm certain there's nothing to answer here and that the Daily Mail is just stirring things (as usual!) Saronne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_H Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 9 of his descendants?! They had to go all the way to Canada to find the one whose DNA matched the remains. The Canadian man was a direct descendant via the female line - this was the important point. see http://www.le.ac.uk/richardiii/science/genealogy.html "For the purposes of DNA comparison, a relative was needed whose descent from Cecily Neville was by an entirely female line. Fortunately, just such an individual had already been traced." There are bound to be loads of other descendants. But as you say, nothing to worry about (for Leicester)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I hope any follow up programme doesn't have the presenter that was used this time. Ye gods they could have come up with someone better surely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowyhen Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Glad to find some enthusiasts of richard here (of all places) Am going to have a v breif grumble though. Leiscter plan to bury him under a slab... Not the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_H Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 update on reinterment http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices/press/media-centre/richard-iii/re-interrment/reinterment-of-king-richard-iii-statement-from-the-university-of-leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&T Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'm glad they are burying him locally to where he was found. I know there are lots of good arguments for moving him to other places, but keeping him local seems right somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 There is a talk about Richard III tomorrow evening, Thursday 21st March at the University of Leicester . Details can be found at http://www2.le.ac.uk/news/blog/2013/march/hear-from-two-of-the-experts-who-were-key-to-the-discovery-of-richard-iii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
