whoopsie Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Ivromectin or xeno 450? Both are spot on type treatments. Which is best please? I presume we ditch the eggs while treating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 The active ingredient of Xeno 450 is Ivermectin I believe it's not licenced for use in laying chickens so egg withdrawal is at the advice of your vet and depends on the strength you are using. Personally I would withdraw eggs from my chickens after treatment for 7 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavclojak Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Ivromectin or xeno 450? Both are spot on type treatments. Which is best please? I presume we ditch the eggs while treating. I use Eprinex which is a generic name for ivermectin *not licenced for use on poultry* I have ex commercial hybrids so for that size hens I pop 5 drops from a pipette on the back of the neck every 3-4 months and withdraw eggs for a week. I have found that very effective, I have not had any problem with ticks, mites, worms although all hens have them if they freerange it is more about controlling the worm burden. I use the spot on and then use flubenvet every three months... I use the ivermectin as a preventative but if you have a hen infested with lice then I think the treatment is slightly different....I am sure it's a few drops daily/every few days but please call a chicken savvy vet and they will be able to advise you, I have also found flyte so fancy to be very helpful and they supply ivermectin spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopsie Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Thanks I might give Flytes a call. I got the Johnsons today that DM suggests so when I've got some help at home I'll dust them all and do the eglu for good measure. Only just jetwashed the damn thing too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (Obviously none of this is licensed for use on poultry... etc) I have found that by far the best treatment combo, this includes for Northern Fowl Mites) is to dose 3-4 times a year with a cattle pour-on called Ivomec Eprinex - active ingredient = Eprinomectin; this is a spot on treatment, and the dosing instructions are here For a heavy infestation or quite a few visible lice, I would also spray with a permethrin-based spray such as the Johnsons' one, or the Nettex aerosol. Do 2 treatments a week apart, and spray onto the skin around the warm vent area. Egg withdrawal for a week after using any of these products. My lot had a probelm with Northern Fowl Mites one year, and they were very hard to shift - this treatment, on the advice of a specialiast avian vet, was the only thing that worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat tails Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I think in the Netherlands it is licensed to be used on poultry. My vet provided me with drop on pipets (not Eprinex) that have instructions for all types of animals, like rabbits, rats but also chickens. I'm curious though, does anyone know if it also works against gape worm? I can't find any website telling me clearly against which parasites it will or won't work. My vet wasn't sure either (I'm apparently his only client with chickens... he's the one I go to for my cat, but might need to have a look to find a different one for my chickens). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'm curious though, does anyone know if it also works against gape worm? I don't know... sorry. You could ask Lewis to see if he knows, but I think he has still to do his Parasitology module. Gapeworm is pretty rare (I've only ever had one case in my flock) and vets here in the UK treat with a double strength dose of Flubenvet, but that has to be prescribed and monitored by a vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Good question but I've no idea - sorry! I had a quick google to see if it treats Syngamus Trachea but didn't get anywhere. As long as your chickens aren't showing signs of gape worm I wouldn't worry, as Clare says regular dose of Flubenvet wouldn't treat it either as it's not something we usually have to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat tails Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Thanks Lewis! Will treat them next week with the spot on. First calculate the dosage and maybe weigh a chicken, although I suspect it might be fiddly, with my bantams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I have to weigh our falcons every morning (I'm usually on Kestrel, Peregrine Falcon and Harris Hawk) but we have a perch mounted on the scales so they hop on, stand for a minute then hop back onto the glove I guess your NHR bantam girls will be 7-800g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat tails Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 That is my guess too, they are not too big or fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 The easiest way to weigh a chicken is to use hanging-type scales, pop the bird in a carrier bag and hang it from the scales. I always estimate mine, and am never far out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...