Egluntyne Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Am posting ~~this~~ not to start any rants....but it is worth a read. From today's Daily Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Poor turkeys - I haven't read it all yet............... I'm so glad that I can see our turkeys, out on grass, zooming up and down the run with the wind blowing their feathery knickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenzin Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Are these the birds they sell at the big supermarkets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 At least they are bringing it to the Public's attention. Horrific reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Are these the birds they sell at the big supermarkets Yep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenzin Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 O.K thanks , i'll be avoiding there turkeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Best to find a butcher with a local supplier we used to use a local farm when we had a shop but although they were barn reared they actually had alot of space when you looked in on the still not ideal but much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Horrific! I knew about this, but the article is still upsetting... that's why I only eat freerange birds. Personally, I don't like Turkeys, but Lesley's big freerange, happy chooks are delicious and the best, most ethical Christmas meal we could have. Thanks Egluntine - hopefully more people will now vote with their shopping trollies. By local, freerange birds from your farmers' market! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Am I the only person who thinks turkey's are actually really cute?!! I didnt read the story as I know its upsetting. We buy free range not only for humane reasons but I think the meat is better aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Am I the only person who thinks turkey's are actually really cute?!! You're not Chelsea - Lesley loves them too. I'm afraid that I'm not keen on the living birds, nor the meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jomaxsmith Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 We're getting our's this year from a free range farm - the farm has a nature walk that goes right past the turkey field so we've been keeping an eye on them for the last couple of months! The farmer's wife reckons they're horrible, evil creatures to look after! I haven't read the article but I imagine it's another one of those which should draw the conclusion that until consumers are prepared to pay more for their meat, it is the animal that will suffer. Our free range, bronze turkey will cost £40 which is a hell of a lot for one meal but not that much for the farmer when s/he has been growing the bird for several months. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Marks and Spencer's policy is to only use free range eggs and free range meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey Lucy Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 We're not planning on having turkey but so long as I buy organic birds from Waitrose am I ok? I do most of my shopping online so don't get to study the labels as I would if I were in store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 didn't read it all but if I get the gist, this farm is claiming they rear "Free Range" birds when in fact that's not the case? Makes you wonder how they get away with it, I thought these places were inspected and there were strict laws about being able to use the claim "Free Range". Seems to me that not only are the farm at fault, the authorities are too. I couldn't read the whole thing as it was just too upsetting, good that the word is out. We take it in turns to have Christmas lunch at my parents or DH's and I know neither sets of parents buy free range turkey but DH won't even let me open my mouth about it, so I'll have to eat what's put in front of me and put up and shut up When we go to my parents next year, I'm going to offer to buy the turkey I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 We're not planning on having turkey but so long as I buy organic birds from Waitrose am I ok? I do most of my shopping online so don't get to study the labels as I would if I were in store. Organic will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 We take it in turns to have Christmas lunch at my parents or DH's and I know neither sets of parents buy free range turkey but DH won't even let me open my mouth about it, so I'll have to eat what's put in front of me and put up and shut up . Don't worry about it, it can be a difficult situation when somebody serves you a meal containing meat which is blatently not free range and therefore against your ethics. I just eat it, knowing that I am doing all I can to spread the word elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaxsmith Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 We take it in turns to have Christmas lunch at my parents or DH's and I know neither sets of parents buy free range turkey but DH won't even let me open my mouth about it, so I'll have to eat what's put in front of me and put up and shut up I was at my Mum's last week and she made me a full cooked breakfast as a treat - using Battery eggs I did make a comment that they were battery eggs but my Mum's a great one for both not hearing things she doesn't want to hear and also for getting offended at anything I say that she doesn't agree with. I'm afraid, dear Reader, I ate the eggs. and they were delicious. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 We take it in turns to have Christmas lunch at my parents or DH's and I know neither sets of parents buy free range turkey but DH won't even let me open my mouth about it, so I'll have to eat what's put in front of me and put up and shut up I was at my Mum's last week and she made me a full cooked breakfast as a treat - using Battery eggs I did make a comment that they were battery eggs but my Mum's a great one for both not hearing things she doesn't want to hear and also for getting offended at anything I say that she doesn't agree with. I'm afraid, dear Reader, I ate the eggs. and they were delicious. Jo I make sure my mum is always supplied hard to have etchics and keep the family happy at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I'm so glad that I can see our turkeys, out on grass, zooming up and down the run with the wind blowing their feathery knickers. And I am so glad that my family will be eating one of the most pampered turkeys in the country! I watched a programme two years ago about Christmas dinners. The new information that I got from there was the difference between barn turkeys and free-range. The meat looks (and tastes) completely different and they cut some bones in half to show how poor the barn turkey's bones are - hardly any marrow inside and too thin to support them. The free-range bones were healthy and strong. It was really shocking and I'm so pleased OH watched it with me. I am now completely converted to paying for the real thing. Cheap turkey is not real turkey at all, it's a different product. I am happy to pay the true cost for a true bird and last year it was totally worth it. My family talked about the delicious turkey for weeks! You get what you pay for - and I only want to buy the real thing. If I can't afford it, we can't have it. I wish we could get back to that attitude. And Lesley, I have learnt from this article that very large birds are not natural. So don't worry about the size (size doesn't matter ), I'm happy with whatever they grow to. It's quality not quantity too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 So don't worry about the size (size doesn't matter ), I'm happy with whatever they grow to. It's quality not quantity too![/color] Never thought I'd hear you say that Ginette! Our chicken last Christmas was from lesley and carl - it was the most delicious we've ever had - we got loads of tasty meat from it after the meal and a very tasty carcass to make soup with too. Excellent quality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 can someone tell me where to get a turkey from next year please? If anyone sells them on here, feel free to pm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 So don't worry about the size (size doesn't matter ), I'm happy with whatever they grow to. It's quality not quantity too![/color] Never thought I'd hear you say that Ginette! Oh dear! Do I have a reputation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Try asking around at your local farmers' market Poet - they'll be sure to point you in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 So don't worry about the size (size doesn't matter ), I'm happy with whatever they grow to. It's quality not quantity too! Never thought I'd hear you say that Ginette! Oh dear! Do I have a reputation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
