Lesley Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Tesco should know better and it was a very poor production As you say, that could cause so much distress....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules. Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Re your work colleague Clare, she had it totally wrong when she said she wanted a baby to "love her" It's the baby which needs the unconditional love from the mother, not the other way around. Babies are born helpless & they can only show love when they have been shown love first. I know a lady in her 70's who was never properly loved as a child & she found showing love to her own children really hard as she had never been taught how to love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I've just watched this whilst dashing of a pile of ironing. All I can say is The girl who makes them obviously makes a good living out of it. The two women were disturbed in different ways.....the older one needing help with coming to terms with her grandchild emigrating. It bothered me that she referred to her husband as "Dad" and not Arn. The one with the fake nails and hair like a poodle (far too old to have flowing locks) was completely out of touch with reality. The husbands all seemed to be"anything for a quiet life types". Maybe if they'd ha someone say to them...."hang on love.....this isn't quite normal" they would have been better off. I reckon the poodle looklike had dropped the doll herself. She was "bonding" with it and examining its every pore....so how did she not notice that it had a fractured skull. It looked too like Jimmy Clitheroe for my taste. In fact they all did! I wonder how much they cost? Anyone going to admit to googling them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 They already have Egluntine - scroll back They are on Ebay........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I've just had a peek on ebay . There was one which was, if I'm honest, quite realistic looking. Then I scrolled down to one which had that horrible black nylon-looking wispy hair and had to get away, fast. On the topic of "perfect" babies .,. or ones that turn out not to be ... has anyone read "We need to talk about Kevin" by Lionel Shriver? I'm about 1/3 into it. I think it's really well written and gripping but is very disturbing, mainly because you know the outcome at the outset and you're just waiting for it to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy&cake Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 firstly- SHIRL your coments were hilarious!!! I do feel sorry for all of them though. I mostly feel sorry married to the Poodle haired woman . I just cant get over how out of reality they all were!!! But i sympathise with the woman who lost her grandson to the parents emigrating. But- that doll wont cure the problem, she needs help from trained professionals. I just cant believe the poodle haired woman said ''if i could pick a child off a shelf id be happy!'' WHAT???? Does she not know what real children are like??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirl Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Good to see you back I have noticed you paosting lately. Not that I post that much mainly just lurk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Re your work colleague Clare, she had it totally wrong when she said she wanted a baby to "love her" It's the baby which needs the unconditional love from the mother, not the other way around. Babies are born helpless & they can only show love when they have been shown love first. You are so right Jules. The thing is that these women clearly need help, not a baby-doll. Sorry, I find it all too weird for words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 The thing is that these women clearly need help, not a baby-doll. Sorry, I find it all too weird for words Me too. They struck me as two women who needed a purpose in life and they have created a false world in which they think they can find happiness. They'd be better off keeping chickens. It would do the poodle lookalike good to get some chicken poo on her pristine white trousers. Scrubbing the wheels of a pram for heavens sake. You would only do that if you had pushed it through something really gross. My friend had a neighbour who started scrubbing the wheels of her pram...and everything else in sight.. It was the first symptom of the manic depression that had her sectioned under the Mental Health Act. What I find most baffling is the husbands supporting them in what is obviously not normal behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 What I find most baffling is the husbands supporting them in what is obviously not normal behaviour. I think that Phil would've got out my long-sleeved white coat with all the buckles if I started acting like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 What I find most baffling is the husbands supporting them in what is obviously not normal behaviour. I think that Phil would've got out my long-sleeved white coat with all the buckles if I started acting like that. What's even more baffling is that Claret obviously has one of these coats already in her wardrobe . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Sssshhh Vicki - don't let my secret out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chrisnrob Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 It looked too like Jimmy Clitheroe for my taste. In fact they all did! Is is just us, or did the poodle-hair lady seem to choose the least attractive of all of the dolls to 'adopt'? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xraylady Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I saw this on YouTube. I wasn't too bothered about the doll bit - each to his own. Maybe the editing deliberately played up the 'is he dead?' grandson aspect - but the grandmother certainly acted as though he was, in effect, dead to her - at least partially - much creepier than women playing with dolls!!!!! I do understand how wrenching emigration can be. When we left the UK, my son was 3. He was the first, adored, grandchild. His leaving was particularly hard for my mother-in-law. She yearned for him. But this is not the 19th century - when you said farewell at Liverpool docks & never saw each other again. Instead, she took another housecleaning job, secretly saved her money, and, against her family's disapproval, bought an airline ticket to the US to visit her beloved grandson. She had never flown before, never traveled alone before, never defied her husband before - but she was quite clear that Tom was not dead to her. Honestly, families can live in the next town and never see each other, it is a matter of commitment. I think the grandmother's oft-repeated phrase that Harry "fit right in" to her former life, was telling. Now he clearly doesn't 'fit' anymore. Poor little poppet. I suspect the daughter might have had good reason to want to take him as far away as possible from Granny. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Honestly, families can live in the next town and never see each other, You are so right!! I have a brother in Chadderton and a sister in Australia. I see my sister more often than my brother. No fall outs or anything. Just the way it is. I suspect the daughter might have had good reason to want to take him as far away as possible from Granny. . . This had crossed my mind too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I felt a bit sad when Granny introduced "Harry2" to "Harry1", like she was replacing him (which she was ) ........ until Harry1 said "it's a doll, you numnut". Out of the mouths of babes .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I have to admit that I watched a couple of snatches on YouTube to see what you were all going on about - I was astounded!!!! It realy is all so sad and very weird How old do you think poodle-woman is? And those nails... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 How old do you think poodle-woman is? Over 40. Too old to have hair down to her waist. It needed a touch of conditioner too. Those nails were awful. She made lovely Dolly Parton look restrained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I noticed that she only wore white and her house appeared to be totally white too... maybe she's done a David Ike thing Daft as a brush if you ask me! Perhaps I could make a fortune selling Biscuit, he lays in my arms like a baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy&cake Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 lol claret.... she did only wear white! appart from a horrid floral thing. i thin its best she doesnt have a real baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 far too self-centred to have a baby of her own if you ask me. OH looked like he could do with a good meal though *sorry, slaps wrists* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy&cake Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 did you see when they were both talking to the camera... ''i dont like the Dolls really'' - Husband said... '' There NOT dolls, BABIES!!!! '' Poodle woman says ''sorry Babies'' he said, Under the Thumb or what???? and the bit when they were in the car with tthe camera rolling, ''i cant remember what that doll was wearing'' and she says ''how can you say that, he was a bi-racial boy called Levi '' OMG!!! whats wrong with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisnrob Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Under the Thumb or what???? I definitely get the impression that he was "long suffering"! The grandmother's husband seemed much more sensible... Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clur Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Each to their own and all but why take them out for walks?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...