Guest Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 we agreed to a milk delivery to 'support our local milkman'. we asked for 1 pint on a monday, weds and friday. We ended up with 2 pints on monday and a pint of milk and a pint of orange juice on friday and all delivered while we were at work. He didn't come for his money weekly either which meant working out what we owed a little tricky. They don't exactly do themselves any favours by being so unreliable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I stopped shopping at AZDA a while ago when I saw a documentary about how badly they treat their staff. admitedly it was the US but if they can dodge paying tax here, do they manage to get around our employment laws too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 [quote name="jomaxsmith Maybe he was nervous about being on camera' date=' I know I wouldn't like it, but then again, he's a manager and should have the skills to cope in that situation. [/quote] Um ... I can see your point, but I don't know how many managers have media training - and even then, prime time major TV is pretty hairy stuff. I've had media training and dealt with live radio phone interviews etc. and it scares the living daylights out of me, even having had training. I think the idea of being in a situation like that poor chap was in would send me scurrying towards a nervous breakdown! It was a bit of a laugh really, but that poor chap will never ever live it down - I feel really very sorry for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I stopped shopping at AZDA a while ago when I saw a documentary about how badly they treat their staff. admitedly it was the US but if they can dodge paying tax here, do they manage to get around our employment laws too? I can't comment on Asda, but I believe that Asda treat their staff a whole lot better than tesco. It's no exaggeration to say that Tesco staff (including store management) are treated no better than those poor chickens that are being sold for 2 for a fiver. For those who have had problems with milkmen, I can suggest that you try the Dairy Farmers of Britain, >>HERE<<. We use one of their mikmen, and he delivers at 'proper' milman time of 6am, the milk is reasonably priced, and he always turns up for his cash! I believe that each milkman sets their own prices, so others may be cheaper or more expensive, but you have the back up of a nationwide oragnaisation, should you have any hassles with them. He also delivers a huge selection of juices, eggs, cheese, bread and some of them also deliver local veg boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 l've also tried a milkman but stopped it for the same reasons as others, unreliability and price (the price I could have lived with, just, but he didn't deliver what I asked for and I was always running out ). Milkmen in "the old days" were surely reliable? Maybe that's because they delivered to everyone rather than just a few houses here and there. No excuse really though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaxsmith Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Milkmen in "the old days" were surely reliable? Maybe that's because they delivered to everyone rather than just a few houses here and there. No excuse really though. Our milkman is always here in the early hours. My children have given me some very early starts and the milk is always here before we're up! He always turns up for his money (although I leave a cheque out for him overnight and if I'd changed my regular order he puts a bill through my door the day before) and I know he goes round the village at least twice on Friday to collect payment. Mind you, he seems to have a lot of customers in the village so, as you say, this probably helps him to be punctual and reliable. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted January 11, 2008 Author Share Posted January 11, 2008 Our milk lady is fantastic - delivers very early, wide range of stuff, leaves a bill each week with a plastic wallet for me to put a cheque in. I get my milk (3 pints a day), fresh orange juice and bread delivered every day. I don't get organic as both options are slightly dearer than the supermarket and we do get through a lot. But at least I don't need a daily trip to the shop to stock up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 My milkman comes every other day so I do have to think in advance how much I want. He is reliable though (and quiet) and just leaves the bill with the milk which I then do the same with the cheque in an empty bottle. My only wish would be for galss bottles but as we get through 4 pints a day that would be a lot of bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I stopped shopping at AZDA a while ago when I saw a documentary about how badly they treat their staff. admitedly it was the US but if they can dodge paying tax here, do they manage to get around our employment laws too? I can't comment on Asda, but I believe that Asda treat their staff a whole lot better than tesco. It's no exaggeration to say that Tesco staff (including store management) are treated no better than those poor chickens that are being sold for 2 for a fiver. For those who have had problems with milkmen, I can suggest that you try the Dairy Farmers of Britain, >>HERE<<. We use one of their mikmen, and he delivers at 'proper' milman time of 6am, the milk is reasonably priced, and he always turns up for his cash! I believe that each milkman sets their own prices, so others may be cheaper or more expensive, but you have the back up of a nationwide oragnaisation, should you have any hassles with them. He also delivers a huge selection of juices, eggs, cheese, bread and some of them also deliver local veg boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchHazel Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I have a milkman. We have two pints a day (started off with 2 pints every day. He delivers at about 4am. he also delivers our cat food every Monday morning, and that makes it well worthwhile. The milk is much more expensive than going to the supermarket, but it's worth the extra to have the convenience of knowing there wiull alsways be milk for morning tea. And, we were always running out of catfood and having to do a supermarket run to stock up, before we got our cat food from him. This is where the cost balances out for me, IO never see him. Once every three weeks he leaves me an itemised bill, and I leave hi8m a cheque. I know roughly what I'm spending on milk and cat food each month, so it's very easy to budget. We messed around for the first few months trying to get the quantity right, and when I stopped going to an office to work I needed more milk. Then I started making Kefir and home made yoghurt, so 12 pints a week for the two of us is about right. About once every two weeks I cancel the milk for a day (just the way it works out), and I always try and give him a day's notice. This is because I may be the only person in my road that uses him, and think it's unfair for him to turn uup and then find I don't want any milk. There are loads of other things we could get from him, as he's with Dairy Crest and they deliver veg boxes, fruit juice, goodness knows what. I just haven't found anything that e dlivers that I want (for example, he delivers Yakult but we use Actimel). It's such a shame that others have found their milkman unreliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 12 pints a week for the two of us is about right. . we use about 4 pints a week for the 2 of us. Maybe you should invest in a goat or a cow if you have the space! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Frugal Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 My milkman is fab. We have milk 3 days a week and it's always outside on the doorstep when we get up at 6.30. We pay by direct debit so there's no need for him to call with a bill which is terrific and although we only order milk, we have the option of other products as well if we need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 My milkman is a star....he is so reliable. The only time he was ever late in over 20 years was when we had really deep snow and he really struggled to get about. We came out at about 3 oclock in the afternoon to find 4 milk bottles perched triumphantly on the pile of snow that had fallen off the roof and blocked the drive. It looked so funny.....we roared laughing. He collects prescriptions for a couple of elderly customers, and when one old lady hadn't taken in her milk from the previous day, he peeped through the letter box and saw her lying at the bottom of the stairs and called the emergency services. She had broken her hip. I don't care if the milk is more expensive than supermarket stuff. By buying from him I am helping to keep a decent man in employment, and...very importantly....milk bottles are reuseable many times before being recycled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Bron, have you seen this article? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=507921&in_page_id=1770 Interestingly slating Hugh for not screening their visits to Lloyd Maunder farms! I feel for Hugh - the farms are all blaming him for what was (or wasn't) screened, yet it's not down to him. The production company will have cut all the footage down to exactly what suited THEM and THEIR MESSAGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) Bron, have you seen this article? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=507921&in_page_id=1770 Interestingly slating Hugh for not screening their visits to Lloyd Maunder farms! I feel for Hugh - the farms are all blaming him for what was (or wasn't) screened, yet it's not down to him. The production company will have cut all the footage down to exactly what suited THEM and THEIR MESSAGE Did you mean me or Chelsea? It is an interesting article though. Bad woman I am. Harry Adams comment on there really made me chuckle Edited January 13, 2008 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 12 pints a week for the two of us is about right. . we use about 4 pints a week for the 2 of us. Maybe you should invest in a goat or a cow if you have the space! I wish we could. DH doesnt have milk so thats at least 24 pints (sometimes we buy more) between 4 of us! If we didnt drink it for a wile at that rate we might be able to buy some land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I was having a healthy debate on the RC about this.(and some people agreed with me) I know for a fact hugh and his producers filmed with Lloyd maunder for 5 consecutive days last year and he filmed another programme a year before with lloyd maunder. Regardless of when lloyd maunder decided to let the programme makers access this should have been reflected in the final airing, not on the editing room floor. They were the only producer who allowed access to farms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) Read **this** It confirms what you say Chelsea. If, as the article suggests they were not allowed access till later, why was this not reflected in the programme. I feel disappointed about the economy with the truth here. *This Article** is worth a read too. No wonder the public don't know what to think. Edited January 13, 2008 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 You know Hughs shot himself in the foot a bit with this LM stuff. To be honest I completely believe it was cut out. I'm suspecting channel 4 more than I am HFW though. BUT I have to say it doesnt have any bearing on how I feel about it. We saw the place on Jamie, we saw the other place with the chap who was starting freedom foods and to be honest the thing that shocked me all the was the stocking densitys and that isnt affected at all buy whetehr HFW was shown a place or not. TO me thats picking on something because its there to be picked at arther than because it makes any difference to how these birds are treated. I'm sure LM are some of the better intensive people, at least it was relatively clean but I'm also full prepared to beleive that there are others at the other end of the scale. Either way something has to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I dont have anything against hugh or his campaign, it can only be for the good of chicken welfare, but I do have a beef with the programme makers. I felt a bit sorry for Lloyd Maunder, of course they are my husbands employer, but they really havent got anything to hide - they are a family company who have been producing meat for over 100 years and are the main employer around here. Now its no wonder farmers and producers that Hugh phoned were reluctant to allow him access! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Bron, have you seen this article? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=507921&in_page_id=1770 Interestingly slating Hugh for not screening their visits to Lloyd Maunder farms! I feel for Hugh - the farms are all blaming him for what was (or wasn't) screened, yet it's not down to him. The production company will have cut all the footage down to exactly what suited THEM and THEIR MESSAGE Did you mean me or Chelsea? It is an interesting article though. Bad woman I am. Harry Adams comment on there really made me chuckle Sorry, you're quite right - I did mean Chelsea! Brain not quite in gear today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaxsmith Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 The Mail on Sunday really has it in for Hugh today with the chair of the poultry farmer's union (or whatever) and a news article about not mentioning the LM co-operation. It's a shame they've made it personal about whether Hugh got his facts right rather than look at the supermarket angle. I must state in my defence, we've got a new paper boy and he delivered the MoS in error - I'd never usually spend money on such rubbish he was supposed to deliver the News of the World Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 ROFL to your paper boy We went to collect our weekly paper today (just on Saturdays!), we often don't collect until Sunday. Ash in the newsagent had ticked us off the list and there was no Telegraph for us. We had to have The Times instead (which I prefer anyway!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaxsmith Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 We had to have The Times instead (which I prefer anyway!) We usually get the Times and the NoW - paperboy last week forgot the NoW and just brought the Times, this week it was Times and MoS. I'm trying to be understanding as really I don't want to give up my Sunday lie in (it's the only day of the week dh gets up with the boys and the only thing that makes it bearable for him is the newspaper!) The village paper shop has stopped delivering because of some new child labour law so this enterprising youth is doing a private paper round. I like reading both the papers and comparing how they report the same news stories since both are from the same 'stable'. At least, that's how the academic in me justifies it. The bored housewife in me just likes the NoW for the celebrity gossip! Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessa the Duchess Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Ash in the newsagent had ticked us off the list and there was no Telegraph for us. We had to have The Times instead (which I prefer anyway!) I get the Times and the Telegraph on a Saturday. I enjoy reading both papers, I also like comparing different viewpoints and takes on the current news stories....bit of a news and politics junkie me Tessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
