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My daughters apparently regularly add or remove apostrophes from school notices! Even my 10 year old loudly proclaims poor punctuation and spellings. Teachers check their spellings with all 4 of my children. :lol:

 

My current hot topics are using plural verbs for singular nouns

(e.g. the committee ARE looking into . . . :evil: ) and

describing the number 0 as an 'O' :evil::evil: That REALLY winds me up.

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Nope, the rule is that if you take the other person out of the sentence, it still has to make sense.

 

So it would be 'T shirt for me', because 'T shirt for I' wouldn't work.

 

*Slowly puts hand up* my grammar is appalling :oops: Sorry guys :oops:

 

Mine's not brilliant either Paola, but glaring errors do get on my wick. My worst problem is mis-typing when I'm tired - my fingers get in all the wrong places :?

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I'm with e e cummings when it comes to grammar (Lesley, he prefers his name to be written in lower case by the way ;))

 

since feeling is first by e e cummings

 

since feeling is first

who pays any attention

to the syntax of things

will never wholly kiss you;

 

wholly to be a fool

while Spring is in the world

 

my blood approves,

and kisses are a far better fate

than wisdom

lady i swear by all flowers. Don't cry

--the best gesture of my brain is less than

your eyelids' flutter which says

 

we are for eachother: then

laugh, leaning back in my arms

for life's not a paragraph

 

And death i think is no parenthesis

 

 

fascinating essay on cummings here if anyone wants to read more about one of my all time favourite poets http://www.english.uga.edu/freshcomp/English_1102_Barnett2002.htm :D

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I'm with e e cummings when it comes to grammar (Lesley, he prefers his name to be written in lower case by the way ;))

 

Oh! :( - you mean I can't put the capitals in? :(

 

Nice T shirt Clare :lol: - just as well they haven't got one for apostrophes though :lol: - my weak point :?

 

 

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Phi'l

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I grew up saying 'o' for '0' or a nought. I would always write is as an '0' though. I didn't even hear of zero 'til I was at least ten and then it was an American thing. My grammar isn't great either but its a lot better than some peoples.

btw if I leave out ' like above it may be because I'm typing one handed (small child) so cutting corners.

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I think I grew up saying 'o' for nought too. I can remember being annoyed in maths lessons when people kept referring to 'number c' as the third exercise. It has only fairly recently occurred to me how stupid it is to refer to a nought as a letter O. Nought is a much more English feeling word than zero, but I'm not sure how acceptable it is as a digit. Getting rather technical, I think perhaps nought is a number i.e. I have nothing or nought whereas zero I would use as a digit but not as a sum total. :? ( I wouldn't say 12 take away 6 times 2 equals zero. I would say equals nought)

 

Sorry :oops: Am I boring everyone? I think this is quite an interesting topic to discuss! :oops::oops:

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I'm not sure I would ever quote my phone area code as:

 

nought one seven nought eight

 

or

 

zero one seven zero eight,

 

both sound stupid to me! So I will always say "OH one seven OH eight" I guess.

 

Having done lots of maths (maths degree many years ago) I would never use "OH" mathematically.

 

I guess it's down to convention - the changes in which keep language as a living and evolving thing.

 

Phil

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Well I always say 'zero one seven zero eight'. To me that is accurate and to say 'oh' instead seems nonsensical. But each to his own, I'm not campaigning, just being me! :D

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