Chook n Boo Mum Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) OK having sent Clover back to his breeder & he didn't even look back ungrateful little tinker I am now having doubts about Copper..................perhaps you'd be kind enough to cast a set of eyes over these pics & let me know your thoughts.................... and just for good measure here's Jasmine........... is she a she or not If they are boys, I shall be taking them all back & not having any more from her, sweet as she is Sha x Edited October 28, 2009 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abwsco Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Sweeping tail feathers shout out to me again Sha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Thank you, I was hoping not....how blind can a girl be when she really doesn't want to see something..............very , how about Jasmine, I think she actually could be a girl This is Copper & Clover squaring up to each other a few weeks ago, having watched my Lt Sussex boys this seems to be a fairly boyish activity Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abwsco Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Jasmine looks like a girl to me. BTW my girls sometimes square up. Meant to ask how old are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Copper is a boy and Jasmine a girl. I wouldn't bother doing the lottery with the luck you've had with chickens!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I would say girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I came to the same conclusion as Jools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 They are about 19 weeks old now Anne....if Copper is a boy I'm seriously considering taking them all back to the breeder, the newbies included and just writing them off to experience, they weren't an expensive purchase financially...unless you count the which they are all living in ...... but emotionally they are now Blossom, who they were purchased to keep company, will either have to live on her own for a while until the babies are big enough (13 weeks old), or maybe shack up with the Bufflings also 13 weeks but enormous by comparison Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 I love the support you can count on on here Well maybe the lottery would be the turning point Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abwsco Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Good luck whatever you decide to do Sha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia W Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Wild Mum - you're not alone. I have this horrible feeling that 3 out of the 6 Poland " girls" I just bought are cockerels. One just crowed and I'm seeing sweeping tail feathers..... And the breeder won't take them back and change them. She'll have them back but doesn't do exchanges. Must have seen me coming.... Oh well, I may be wrong...... Tricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 The trouble is I tend to get slightly "tunnel-visioned"........ I concentrate on a perceived problem (Clover), then once that's solved (swapped) I notice something else which has been staring me in the face (Copper).........by which time I have two other potential problems on my hands too with the newbies .............DH has just popped past & thrown in " perhaps buying them so young is a bad move".......you don't say Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abwsco Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Must admit it never entered my head when we got 12 weeks old last year that we could have had cockerels. However, they were bought from a big breeder so I just assumed they'd be able to tell very early on. We could have bought an Orp instead of one of the others we got in January but the breeder said they were difficult to sex. She would have swapped though. Can't believe your breeder will not swap Tricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Aaaargggh I think the little ones came with extra baggage.......I felt thoroughly itchy & rather than just rub one itch away once I realised, I went upstairs to inspect in a mirror only to find a pesky louse walking up my chest ........I whipped out to check the newbies who are of course plastered in red mite powder, but couldn't see anything obvious, not a huge surprise given the lack of strength in the torch , & having had them in the with the pekins they'll have shared anyway, so I'll treat everybody in the morning & blast that house to within an inch of it's life............DS & have just had the hottest showers we could manage & our clothes are in a 60deg wash, including my favourite little black jacket which will probably fit DS by the time it's done...........he's not complaining I've poultry shielded the wicker cat basket I collected them in & left it outside to dry Anyone want a share in my luck today .........no ............... thought not Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkor Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Copper def looks like a little chap... for putting a spanner in the works..... Jasmine looks girly though! How about some profile, side and back pics of the newbies and we could cast doubt on those too! Meant cast our expert (well some of us ) eye over them. xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Don't worry Em, you only said what I suspected & didn't want to admit I now need to get to the "take the whole lot back" phone call.... will my luck never run out Ok girls & boys, decision time..... Jasmine is the most nervous chook I've ever come across....do I keep her as the Omlet Collective Oracle has spoken on her gender & she will keep Blossie company until the babies are big enough to integrate & master the cube, or take her back and have her bothered by the multiple cockerels at the breeders (most of which she's liable to be related to anyway ) and become thoroughly miserable... though I won't ever be there to witness it ..........and having got the newbies in place of Clover do I keep them or take them back too, the maran x was taken from her mum ( one tiny black pekin with 23 multi-sized bitzas ) to come home with me, though she's 11 weeks old so plenty old enough to leave her & she cried pitifully all the way home, then again at bedtime, they are both smothered in red mite powder too........hindsight is a terrible burden All words of advice are very welcome.....even if I don't want to hear them Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Nope, definitely give the lottery a miss for a week or two!!!! Seriously, if someone is experienced with a breed, they should be able to sex reasonably accurately from a fairly early age, though it will of course differ breed by breed. I've got all of mine right this year (Silver Sussex bantams and some FCB Marans x RIR crosses) from around the 2-3 week mark, so it can't be that difficult. I think you either need to find another breeder, or maybe take someone with you. Was it the same breeder that sold you your newbies with passengers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Yup they were the replacement for Clover.............. trouble is I think her lot are such a mish mash of breeds that they are difficult to tell.......I know I'm making excuses for her......... I'm sure she'll take them all back & I'll just keep Jasmine. I've never had such young birds so I tend to trust other people's judgement............won't be doing that any more....and perhaps I stick with POL ...and adopt the dunking routine for any featherball daft enough to consider broodiness Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Shirl Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I came to the same conclusion as Jools Me too. Sorry Sha.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 This morning I went out to let everyone out...the pekins were picking on the baby maran x, the mini Jasmine was as far away from the others as she could possible get........and lo & behold a deep throated (by bantam standards at least ) attempt at a crow coming from Copper .... I'd heard it yesterday for the first time as we basketed Clover but couldn't pinpoint the beak it came from.......now I of course can pinpoint it with total accuracy I rang the breeder at 8.01, feeling that was a fairly reasonable hour for a weekday morning & left a message on her answerphone saying that I need to bring Copper back and I will also be bringing the babies back as I can't got through getting attached again & having to bring them back in 6 weeks time..............I await her response Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Shirl Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 This morning I went out to let everyone out...the pekins were picking on the baby maran x, the mini Jasmine was as far away from the others as she could possible get........and lo & behold a deep throated (by bantam standards at least ) attempt at a crow coming from Copper .... I'd heard it yesterday for the first time as we basketed Clover but couldn't pinpoint the beak it came from.......now I of course can pinpoint it with total accuracy I rang the breeder at 8.01, feeling that was a fairly reasonable hour for a weekday morning & left a message on her answerphone saying that I need to bring Copper back and I will also be bringing the babies back as I can't got through getting attached again & having to bring them back in 6 weeks time..............I await her response Sha x Oh Sha, I do feel for you. {Hugs}x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkor Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Oh sha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluckingmad Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Oh Sha, what a shame *hugs* Any word back from the breeder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I agree, Copper is a boy and Jasmine a girl. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooks Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 sorry to hear this Sha xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
