Egluntyne Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 In yesterday's newspaper there was the woeful tale of a 10 year old who had his partial ASBO upgraded to a full one for repeatedly misbehaving, in Barnsley(!) He had verbally abused neighbours, stolen items, attacked people, been suspended from school, drinking alcohol, smoking cannabis....the list is endless. Among the items he had stolen, they listed his father's play station. Is it any wonder?........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Don't start me off Egluntine.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Kids eh Lesley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I shall end up with an ASBO myself if you carry on Mel........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) I do feel sorry for him (the child that is). What sort of future does he have? Prob not a very bright one Edited March 14, 2007 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Kids eh Lesley Weeeeeeeeee, heeeeeeeeeeeee, heeeeeeeeeeeeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahJo Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Hmmmm ... to be fair though, if he was indoors playing on the playstation he probably would not be out abusing the neighbours and attacking people . Obviously, I don't defend the kids behaviour, but a playstation alone (whoever it belongs to) does not maketh the thug. If it does I better quickly dispose of the X-Box!!!!!!! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I am a bit by this to be honest. I don't think that just because the father has a playstation that automatically makes him a bad parent. I hope not anyway,or there is no hope at all for my 2 girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgies Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Oh, just have to chuck in my two penn'orth, that whilst his mother was in court pleading that her son was a reformed character since he'd been seeing a psychiatrist to help him with anger management, her son was outside having a fag break! Sue Budgie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolinep Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 The mind boggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Oh, just have to chuck in my two penn'orth, that whilst his mother was in court pleading that her son was a reformed character since he'd been seeing a psychiatrist to help him with anger management, her son was outside having a fag break! Sue Budgie for some people - having a fag break is VERY GOOD anger management! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina C Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I read that as the father had a playstation that was stolen goods he must condone his son's activity. I know we are sometimes a bit extreme on here but I don't think any of us think that computer games/TV etc on their own make kids (or adults!) into criminals! Although if there are already inclinations and influences they might... (there that should stir things up a bit more...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Maybe Naomi Campbell should try it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 DON'T start me on a rant! Here's a comment I heard in the playground this morning when I dropped Rosie off (the mother in this case is of what I call 'the screaming classes' - she constantly yells at all four of her children). She was chatting to another mum, who commented; ' 'ow come you're exepectin' agen, I fought you didn't want no more kids?' Reply: 'yeah, I di'n't, but Pete sed dat now Tyler's in playgroup i've gotta go back ter werk, so I reckoned it woz about time i had another kid or I'd be back werking and no more benefits' My apologies for not being able to replicate the accent accurately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Classy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 More or less what I thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Update on the boy with the ASBO.... He has been hit with the chemical cosh for the past few weeks and is now a paragon of all the virtues. His mother is reported as saying that he has"that autism wotsit" and is now much calmer and away from the influence of the older boys whose fault it all was in the first place. Let's hope so. Why are people condoning a 10 year old smoking though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Through work I come across a lot of young people who drop out of school, get into trouble, get arrested, also get pregnant very young etc. I used to have a preconceived idea of what "young people like these" were like - but having spoken to a lot of them you do realise just how young some of their lives started taking them down this route and once they are on it and have started missing school and offending they find it increasing hard to turn themselves around. By the time they reach 14, quite often it is too late as they have already been branded as a waste of space. (I am in no way condoning their behaviour by the way). No-one wants to give them a second (3rd, 4th, 5th...) chance - and who can blame them - so what is left for them? Many I have met don't have strong role models. When they start getting in trouble at school some parents say "I never went to school and it never did me any harm". They don't respect teachers or authority so won't class them as role models. Their "friends" are exactly like them and trying to break away from these groups is pretty tough. Luckily I have come across lots of success stories of how young people have, with a lot of hard work and determination on their part, changed their lives for the better. Obviously not all kids (sorry Lesley!) that get into trouble have the same backgrounds as this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feemcg Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 We have a 13 year old boy in the unit whose mother brings him cigarettes. She is now saying that as she will no longer get Child Benefit for him as he is in care, she won't be able to buy his cigs - and what were we going to do about it! She asked if we would now be giving him pocket money to buy his own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolinep Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 We have a 13 year old boy in the unit whose mother brings him cigarettes. She is now saying that as she will no longer get Child Benefit for him as he is in care, she won't be able to buy his cigs - and what were we going to do about it! She asked if we would now be giving him pocket money to buy his own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahJo Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Our local paper today "12 year old suspended after having cannabis in school" ... he was then investigated and cautioned by police, after an older child , became very ill after smoking the said drug. Have just had a massive debate/discussion with OH on how this is happening, not just in our area BUT everywhere, but never did in our day ... OH is only 33 years old . We spent Sunday afternoon building Rockets with our 5 and 7 yr olds, they respectively wanted to "show them off" in school, and tonight the rockets returned home. BUT ..... one mother who's sons are from a "good" home ( Dad is a PHd, etc) commented on why we had made them. When I explained that it was something the boys wanted to do, and it had ended up a family effort ... she replied "don't you have a TV" . At 1st I was embarrassed, then it struck me that even the best parents, if they do not spend TIME with the children, lose the respect and childhood very quickly from their child. . Sorry rant over .... we do have an x-box, but we do play out most of the time, and make home-made rockets with extra after-burners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 You shouldn't feel that you have to apologise for that Sarahjo - that was a pretty ignorant remark from her. I get that all the time, because our telly is almost never on; Rosie and I prefer to get on with things together and only watch the odd programme that we'd really like to see. We had it on last weekend while the girls were here for the sleepover and the tv got more use then than it did for the rest of the week We love 'cutting and sticking' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 We love 'cutting and sticking' I used to spend hours "cutting and sticking" with my children, especially my daughter....perhaps it is more of a girl thing in a way.....make the most of it....those days pass all to quickly I used to lurve those "dressing up" dolls....you know, the ones with tabs on the clothes that fit over the cardboard dolls shoulders etc. I think I used to buy them for me and pretend they were for my daughter. Mrs PhD doesn't know what she is missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 One of our favourites is sitting and colouring together with some favourite music in the background. Phil often pops down and joins in too. It could make a fortune as a relaxation therapy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
