tara Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I posted on Facebook about my child sitting on the cold concrete playground the other day.l did,nt say the schools name nor the head teachers name .what happened was l walked down to school at pick up time to see my daughter with her class being told by the supply teacher you will all stay there until your quiet my daughters in year 5 so 10 years just ,l was so angry l told her to get up it was 6 degrees out, she stood up and so did the rest of the class but l only told her.we wrote a letter to school saying that level of disapline was going to far l heard him saying you will stay there until your quiet it was freezing out and there they are in shorts and t shirts having to sit and be quiet.the head teacher has found out l spoke about it on Facebook I never said her name nor the school, she has said in her letter the kids were only sitting there as they finished there races which is a lie l heard him with my own ears he's said l shouted out abusive language which is untrue l shout to him , how would you like to sit there ,,,,she says l show total disrespect by talking about it on Facebook ...sorry to go on but my childs welfare is my first important to me and I'd never ask her to sit in the cold while I'm wrapped up on the concrete ground this time of year ...any advice please I'm upset she says I show no respect how dare she ,,,years ago she said regarding our son if you see something your not happy with regarding safety you should get involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizzyMomma Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Personnally I'd go straight to the Head Governor with this and make an official complaint! Did any-one else witness this who would be prepared to back you up?? {{{HUGS}}} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 My friend was with me problem is she properly wont stand up for me when it get to it ....but l will ask her ...do you think l showed disrespect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyhole kate Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I would be furious and quite frankly I would tell the headmistress that what you post or say on facebook is none of her business you are not Ten years old or one of her pupils. I think that it is highly unproffesional for her to accuse you of being verbally abusive If unfounded accusations are being made by the teacher involved against you I would inform her that you wish to take the matter further and insist that the matter is independantly investigated I would not be spoken to like that or accused of being a liar by anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I had a similar thing last year. I mentioned on FB that my daughters teacher had lost all her course work,which she had. This cause no end of problems for us & several long long nights for my girl,trying to get all her work together..... One of the other Mums told the teacher what I had posted (I too did not mention names) & she subsequently made my daughters life VERY difficult for the rest of the time she was teaching her. I have since taken said 'friend' off of my friends list & made sure all my comments are private. Again,a similar thing happened at work,with a colleague. Social sites are immensely powerful these days & easily abused - good luck & I truly sympathise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 You are all fab and another letter will be going in on Monday with all your comments . Somtimes I wonder if I'm an over protective mother ...but in my heart I'm angry so so angry but to have and outside view is just what I needed ...thank you all so very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyhole kate Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Incidentally I had forgotton that the almost identical thing had happened to my ED then 8 now 32 except only she was made to sit on the playground and not allowed to take her coat when she went to get it off the peg again this time of year and made to watch PE because she had forgotten her kit The teacher in question had left by the time I found out what happened and gone to the school Very differently the headteacher was also horrified at such treatment of a child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 That's so bad were's the common sence they are mean to keep child safe and also teach them to care for there own welfare ....I'm not taking this your comments have been very helpful and will def be going into a letter ,,I even thought of writing another letter for parents to sign asking them to consider children in the freezing tempatures ...should,nt need too though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowberry Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 No disrespect to any teachers on here, however *deep breath* the other day my DD was given a detention for forgetting her shin pads for hockey. She had been absent the previous week so did not know that they were needed. Fair enough, now that she is yr 8 she is expected to take more responsibility for her actions. The teacher still made her take part without them. I rang up & spoke to the head of year & said that if she'd been told to go & do homework & given the detention that was fine; but to bang on about H&S & still make her do hockey, No. My daughter didin't do that detention! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubababe Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Sorry but that is out of order. The welfare of the children is paramount and nothing is achieved by giving the children pneumonia. You have every right to defend your child. If you do not have a satisfactory result from the school then you could ask OFSTED to investigate and explain to the school that unless you get a satisfactory result from them then that is where you will go...they will not be happy but will more than likely co-operate. Yes children should be able to experience outdoor activities however, NOT at their cost. There is a line and health & safety has guidelines which do not cover children sitting on cold floors in 6' in shorts & t-shirts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 what do you all think of this ... In regards to your letter dated 19th January 2012.Firstly I’m Furious and quite frankly what l post or say on Facebook is none of your business I’m not Ten years old or one of your pupils or though the school’s name wasn’t mentioned or any teachers name, Secondly accusing me of being disrespectful to the teacher is unprofessional and unfounded l may even wish to take the matter further to be independently investigated I will not be spoken to like that or accused of being a liar by anyone. I only said how would you like to be sitting there in the cold ‘had I been that loud you would have heard me as you say you was in the atrium. Again l have witnesses to that. I reported it in reception as your aware but its not like that changed things. As for calling me several times I work nights which l have informed you of in the past few weeks. As for the children sitting on the playground l myself and another parent heard the teacher clearly saying and l quote ‘you are staying there till your quiet’ Had they been standing matters would be different now but that teacher was using it as a discipline. Am very surprised at you for allowing this to happen and watching in the warm. The welfare of the children is paramount and nothing is achieved by giving the children pneumonia, as I’m sure you will agree. When my son went under the stage we was told by your self ‘ if you see something going on to do with health and safety of your child then get involved we can clearly remember that. As I had to rescue him as no teacher bothered too, but we wont go back over that incident. As for confusing the children they were glad l helped them they were very cold in there lack of clothes suitable for the weather it was 6 degrees that day, lm not interested what other school do I’m concerned with seating them in the cold and making them stay until the hole class was quiet. That’s what needs addressing. If were not satisfied we will ask for a meeting with the Head Governor and make an official complaint ....all your posts were brilliant and helped me come up with this ,, but what do you think is it to much to the point or ok ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Tara,please don't take this the wrong way,but I think you need to dial it down a notch. You need to sound upset but in control in this letter,you need to stick to the facts & not doing too angry....at the moment you sound very very angry (rightly) & that will not work in your favour. Look at it again in the morning....I am sure that a second read through will help immensely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 your honest opinion is welcome am going to hold back and ask for a meeting .... last thing l want is to sound nasty but she dose need telling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'm not on facebook and frankly glad I;m not - suspect some troublemakers have nowt better to do than go thro looking for trouble to make. A teacher who was sick at on of my kids school - got caught out by a mum as she was pictured playing in the snow - pics passed onto head. So just remember you are being watched BTW I know there are some good things about it but tell ES to be careful what he writes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Don't forget that this forum is not closed, so anyone who knows your business may well read about this incident here too, and cause problems for you. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'm not on facebook and frankly glad I;m not - suspect some troublemakers have nowt better to do than go thro looking for trouble to make. A teacher who was sick at on of my kids school - got caught out by a mum as she was pictured playing in the snow - pics passed onto head. So just remember you are being watched BTW I know there are some good things about it but tell ES to be careful what he writes This cannot happen if you take the most basic security measure of only allowing your 'Friends' to see your wall,info & posts. In my particular case,detailed above,it was a Friend' who told the teacher what I had posted. Facebook is a great way of finding out who your TRUE friends are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsylabrador Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Tara, if I have to contact anyone in an official capacity by writing I always use the rules I learnt at school for essay writing. First start with an introduction, point out the general purpose of your letter. Then state each point you want to make. They might overlap but each grievance can be discussed. Then conclude with what you would like to happen next. I would steer away from sounding angry, that could be used against you. I find this helps me to get my point across and focus on what I want to say. I hope this is helpful, I understand why seeing your child like that would make you feel angry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Ah bless you we have booked a meeting with the head I'm going to calm the letter down a bit ...its so wrong what happened ,l found my Facebook open to the public it must have changed at some point when l updated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyhole kate Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Tara Good advice as ever from Patsylabrador which is just as relevant at a face to face meeting. Write down the points that you want to discuss on the day this will stop you getting cross or losing focus about what the meeting is there to achieve Good Luck and let us know how it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubababe Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Facebook have changed a lot of things at the moment and it is a constant battle to maintain privacy!! I have 'friends' & 'close friends'. I am finding that I am blocking 'friends' from certain posts. It's not all doom & gloom but we just need to be mindful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hello Tara! Going on experience, head's aways seem to back up teachers. Keep your dealing's with her as calm as you can, precise and to the point. However much this incident has annoyed you, it is in the past. What you now want to achieve is to avoid a repeat of it in the future. Let what has happened go and try to obtain an agreement that it will not happen again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hello Tara! Going on experience, head's aways seem to back up teachers. Keep your dealing's with her as calm as you can, precise and to the point. However much this incident has annoyed you, it is in the past. What you now want to achieve is to avoid a repeat of it in the future. Let what has happened go and try to obtain an agreement that it will not happen again! Your very right am going to stay calm am on good term or was till that but face to face will be easier more friendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I find it dis-arms them if you act calm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
