Egluntyne Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Read **this** and weep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I know, truly shocking. I heard about it on the news this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I've done lots of work based qualifications (both my NVQ's) but the idea of getting a GCSE or A level at a McDonalds just doesn't feel right. Ok, so higher qualifications are possibly a good idea. What state of education do we dole out to youngsters today that they need McDonalds help to get some GCSE's A xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ana's flock Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 ...and I threaten my children when they don't want to do their homework with the grim forecast that 'if they don't work hard at school, they'll end up flipping burgers at MacDonalds...' ...and now it's actually becoming a way to obtaining qualifications! whatever next!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little chickadee Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hmmmm - I'm not a big fan of Mc.Donalds, ..........but....... I have heard that their management training scheme counts for a lot if people are looking for another management job. I'm all for people working towards qualifications....... does sound a bit wieird though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Although I am aghast at this news I must say that if it is a way of getting some of this countries most poorly educated youngsters a qualification of some sort, which could lead to a career,then why not? Maybe McDonalds can succeed where schools have failed *ducks behind the sofa,to dodge a barrage of Crocs thrown in this direction* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I suppose they will teach people skills that they may not have learned in school, which could lead to better jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 You're not the only one who thinks there's a silver lining here. The 14-19 curriculum is about to change drastically, with a much wider choice of vocational accredited courses available to students. Providers other than schools and colleges will be involved in delivering and accrediting these courses. If McDs employess and those of the other companies mentioned are learning business, management and other skills at a level which can be accredited as equivalent to A level, why should they not gain a qualification from their hard graft? As Cinnamon rightly says, this is a transferable qualification which could take them on to other employment or training. Academic study isn't the only route to success! The press reaction is surely because the phrase 'equivalent to A level' has been used to report this... lots of qualifications are equivalent to A level, delivered by all sorts of training providers. Many of our students would really benefit from this type of scheme! OK, rant over.... sorry folks (Ducks to avoid crocs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 The article that I heard on the radio this morning also mentioned a few other companies, who are doing something similar. One of the was Network Rail, who are a client of ours, I know that they invest very heavily in staff training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessa the Duchess Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I hate McDonalds but, I heard an interview on Radio 4 this morning saying that employers much prefer a qualification PLUS experience rather than just a qualification, so maybe it is not all bad. Tessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I suppose if it gives "burger flippers" an incentive to work their way up and possibly out to a better job, it's not a bad thing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 You could be right. I don't think medical schools will be accepting it as an alternative to a top grade A Level in Chemistry from prospective candidates though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emu Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Well who knows maybe Mcdonalds will progress into offering McMasters and McDoctorates!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Well who knows maybe Mcdonalds will progress into offering McMasters and McDoctorates!? With large fries and a diet coke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I was thrilled to hear about this I might not be over qualified for a job there now And if I have another day like today I will be applying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Well who knows maybe Mcdonalds will progress into offering McMasters and McDoctorates!? Then would you be a McPhD? Mr John Smith McPhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 *ducks behind the sofa,to dodge a barrage of Crocs thrown in this direction* Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, heeeeeeeeeeeeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Licken Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Good for them. I teach some very alternative qualifications to try and get kids who can't won't or don't fit the system. Anything that helps them has got to be a bonus. I also have some NVQs in fairly obscure subjects that I have picked up along the way!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emu Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hey Pengy - last time erm I visited McD's seriously in the 1990's I was served by a very eloquent speaking gentleman who upon questioning said he had graduated from Cambridge University and couldn't find a job- hence serving up at McD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Licken Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 what do you say to a geography graduate???? Big mac and fries please!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Ahh well I have no real qualificatiosn past gcse maybe I should go and get a job there! (or shoot me first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 *ducks behind the sofa,to dodge a barrage of Crocs thrown in this direction* Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, heeeeeeeeeeeeee I haven't heard you say that for ages Paola - I have missed it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ana's flock Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well who knows maybe Mcdonalds will progress into offering McMasters and McDoctorates!? Then would you be a McPhD? Mr John Smith McPhD Must tell my husband! He's been struggling to finish his PhD for the last 9 (yes 9!) years (part time as well as working for our own little company - he asked me to add this). Much easier if he was part-timing at McDonalds... and we could get the burgers & fries at a discount... and my vegetarian gourmet boys would be less demanding as their food standard would lower... making my cooking life easier... mmmmmm yes, definitely a silver lining to this one... Seriously now, the good thing for McDs is that they will reduce staff attrition as there is an incentive to work there for longer periods. The kids will stay and learn leading to better jobs and would get some young ones off the streets and perhaps even stop them from doing worse things. I still don't like their food though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirl Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Both my sons work for McDs The eldest is at Uni so it's his spending money. The youngest is going throught the application process to be an air traffic controller. He's only been at McDs 6 weeks and wants to leave . Both already have A levels though so I don't think they'd be tempted to make it a career choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ana's flock Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Both my sons work for McDs The eldest is at Uni so it's his spending money. The youngest is going throught the application process to be an air traffic controller. He's only been at McDs 6 weeks and wants to leave . Both already have A levels though so I don't think they'd be tempted to make it a career choice Congratulations! I hope my boys will also choose to do something useful when they get to that age (with the comments I get from them now and then at the tender ages of 6 and 9, I'm dreading the teenage years ) I don't think McDonalds will be aiming to retain in their files people like your boys, however, it will be a good thing for those young people who didn't complete a basic level of education, will give them some hope... When I first came into the UK, many years ago, to improve my English, I did work in Asda... having already obtained an Art degree in Spain, I didn't see the checkouts as a career path, however it helped me becoming familiar with the language (and Glasgwegian too, as I was working in Corby ). So you see, there are many reasons... I still wouldn't feel very comfortable if the only previous qualifications and past experience of my neurosurgeon/aircraft pilot/accountant/lawyer... was a PhD in the role of lettuce as a healthy option at a fast-food chain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...