Guest Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 what do you think of that device that emits ultrasonic sound to prevent gangs of teenagers congregating in certain places? http://news.google.co.uk/news?hl=en&q=buzz+off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=4&ct=title I had to check myself and wonder if it was April the 1st when I heard about it! It's the most bizarre notion and will only move them on to somewhere else to cause a nuisance. Something else to replace what the police should be doing, IMO. I have to say, when I was a teenager, we used to go to each others houses or stayed at home. Hanging around on the street or outside shops in gangs, perhaps apart from my own street, never appealed to me. We always found something to do. These teenagers should take a leaf out of Martin or Jem's book, they are a shining example of young people today and I know Martin is never short of something constructive to do, you only have to read his blog to know that! (hope I haven't embarrassed you guys! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 What a wacky idea. Absolutely stupid! Thanks for the compliment, just been up the allotment so I will update my blog later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emu Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 IMO- there should be a suitable curfew time imposed for kids 'hanging around 'and up to no good then police take them in if necessary,contact parents,issue first warning. If it happens again(even in most lenient cases on third time), then a fine should be imposed upon release of offending kid. Trouble is parents probably wouldn't bother collecting them to avoid fine,so deduct from benefits every week a set amount until they do,or put a separate bill from police authority(via council tax bill enhancement) to the correct household(s). Why should we pay extra for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 IMO- there should be a suitable curfew time imposed for kids 'hanging around 'and up to no good then police take them in if necessary,contact parents,issue first warning. If it happens again(even in most lenient cases on third time), then a fine should be imposed upon release of offending kid. Trouble is parents probably wouldn't bother collecting them to avoid fine,so deduct from benefits every week a set amount until they do,or put a separate bill from police authority(via council tax bill enhancement) to the correct household(s). Why should we pay extra for this? My Dad is a policeman. Policeman are supposed to take home anyone under the age of 16 if they are out after 9pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I was listening to a debate on this subject on the radio when I was up the allotment it said: 'There is so much hubabaloo about Policeman needing more powers, well to be honest I think they need to make the most of the ones they already have first.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I'm with you Martin the police have enough powers but are stuck doing paperwork a lot of the time, my 2 teens never hang around on street corners they have better things to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessa the Duchess Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 We've had two of these mosquito devices in our area for about 6 months. One is outside KFC where the kids are a real menace, the other is outside a branch of Morrisons where I never go so I have no idea how bad the kids are there. It really annoys me when their excuse is 'there's nothing to do' Much more for youngsters to do today than when I were a lass Like Poet we used to go round to each other's houses, listen to music etc., my mother would have had a fit if she thought I was hanging around the streets making trouble. BUT, the trouble makers are in the minority, most teenagers are great and a credit to their parents, like the younger people on this forum Tessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Like you, I just can't understand people who have nothing to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Like you, I just can't understand people who have nothing to do Do you think that it is laziness? I would not let my children hang out on the streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Nor me, from a safety point of view. Rosie is always well occupied with her hobbies and projects. Pehaps they'd rather have them 'out of the way' than in the house 'bothering' them *shrugs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Nor me, from a safety point of view. Rosie is always well occupied with her hobbies and projects. Pehaps they'd rather have them 'out of the way' than in the house 'bothering' them *shrugs* If my 16 year old has his mates round the house, their mothers always thank me for putting up with them! They aren't allowed round their houses! I'd far rather they were all here, whatever mess they make (surprisingly little I have to say) than lounging on street corners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 We had one of these gadgets put up opposite our house in an attempt to stop the gangs of mature youths playing football. I knew it was happening but didn't tell my children. None of them complained about the noise; I don't think they could hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 At least you know where they are.... I hade aconversation with a friend recently about her 17 yo daughter who wanted to bring her boyfriend to stay at the family house; she had received some criticism from friends about letting her daughter sleep with her BF in their house. She said 'at least I know where they are' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Sooooo, where do I buy one of these & will it stop my teens loitering around my make up drawer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessa the Duchess Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 If my 16 year old has his mates round the house, their mothers always thank me for putting up with them! They aren't allowed round their houses! I'd far rather they were all here, whatever mess they make (surprisingly little I have to say) than lounging on street corners I much preferred my sons having their mates round than not knowing where they were. A couple of times I had boys staying with me when their frantic parents threw them out I never had any problems with them, their music drove me mad though Tessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen & co. Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I tend to agree with the comments about parents sending their children out and not wanting them around I prefer it to be open house here so I know where they are, and am lucky in the respect that most of my children's friends have like minded parents We're lucky enough to have a play room soon to be turned into a den for the children to bring their friends to, just hope they don';t want icecream and popcorn bringing round during the film Karen x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen & co. Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I meant to say that one of the pupils had the 'buzz off' sound on their phone in school the other day, and both their English teacher and I heard it it quite shocked the pupils Karen x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 We do that it lessons too(not me personally)! It's so funny when the teachers can't hear it and the ones who can hear it, think there is something wrong with them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 We do that it lessons too(not me personally)! It's so funny when the teachers can't hear it and the ones who can hear it, think there is something wrong with them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Its supposed to be under 25s who can hear it. Well at 24 I was married with a mortgage and two kids. I was NOT hanging around streets getting into trouble. Why should I have had to suffer what is apparently (to those that can here it when its set properly) a ghastly noise just because some other people decide to act like idiots. Why don't we just lack up all adults as the majority of murders are comitted my adults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couperman Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Foxwatch for hoodies! Well I think it is quite disgraceful to target people who happen to have good hearing. OK some young morons like to gather in gangs and cause mayhem, but they are still very much in the minority. Bad boys get more attention from the News, thats the way the News is and not a true reflection on life in general. As the Manic Street Preachers would say 'If they tolerate this, then your children will be deaf' I am mid thirties and can still hear bats and that is around the range the 'Buzz Off' thing operates. (it could be tinitus mind!) This device annoys all who are able to hear it including babies and small children who have done nothing wrong other than having young ears. Wouldn't it be better to bother people who are guilty of something and beat them accordingly? The 'Buzz Off' device is so wrong on so many levels, the Cane wasn't as it was only delivered to those who needed it, (apart from that little lad out of KES who was trying to deliver a message from his teacher) Kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Foxwatch for hoodies! I agree! It is hardly fair to punish those who just happen to be wheeled past in their pushchair. Get the blighters involved in sport, sport and even more sport. That would get them off street corners. And rigourously punish shopkeepers who sell cheap booze to teenagers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedusA Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I was listening to a debate on this subject on the radio when I was up the allotment Me too, Martin! My OH works with young offenders. I think this device is just a foretaste, unfortunately! *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little chickadee Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I never understood teens hanging around all day in town when I was a teen. I always had something better to do. i was in so many bands/ orchestras I didn't have time to do anything like that if I wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Once I got to 14 I had Saturday jobs and also worked in the hols too. I was too knackered to be hanging around on street corners. Anyroad up.....in those days we had 2-3 hours homework a night!! Plus loads of weekend homework too. My children seemed to get about 20 minutes homework, which they dashed off on the bus on the way home and still managed to get A's so I think that says quite a lot about how things have changed. Also the changing attitudes about allowing children to play out and amuse themselves are partly to blame. Children are ferried every where and amusement is laid on for them at every turn as we imagine that there is a predator at every turn. They no longer have the ability to make their own entertainment and spend too much time in front of the telly/playstation etc, getting a totally unrealistic and warped sense of the world and where they fit in. Suddenly their hormones start surging and they want to be with their friends and start trying to assert themselves. Because they haven't acquired many of the survival skills that we did, they can be sucked in to a type of behaviour that can lead them into trouble. And no one wants to be a youth leader etc anymore for fear of being accused of being a paedophile or dread of the Elfnsafety mafia. Makes one despair dunnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
