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[surferdog]

So sorry to read your post Seagazer

[Roxanne]

Thanks everyone - he is holding up fairly well although you can tell by the tone of his voice that he is very down. He has just gone with his friends down to the Metro Bar - I think he's probably fed up of me keep asking him if he's ok and cuddling him, don't know if its pmt or the menopause to blame but I keep blubbing. Got to pull myself together.

Just seen it on the news... horrific, tragic, senseless. After reading your original post and then seeing it on the screen, I had to shed a few tears for the Knox family. What a brave family they are.

You just continue to do everything you are doing Seagazer - I am sure your son realises what you are going through too. As much as you feel for the family who have lost a child, you have to think in the back of your mind, 'it could have been mine' , and that is why you are reacting as you are.

[Karen & co.]

Seagazer I'm so sorry your son is having to deal with the senseless loss of his friend

 

My thoughts are with your family and the family of the boy who died

 

Karen x

[Basset]

Seagazer,

 

I'm so sorry to hear that you know the poor boy involved in this terrible tragedy. My sincere wishes go out to you and your children. It must be so unbelievably sad to be personally involved and know the young boy whose life has been needlessly wasted.

 

I know Sidcup really well. I lived just a short walk away from the Metro bar for 20 years, and now live only a couple of miles away. I regularly pass the Metro bar when I take my Mum shopping to Somerfield, as she still lives in Sidcup.

 

For what it's worth, I do think it is the sort of incident that could happen anywhere these days. I think Sidcup is better than many other places. My feeling would be that you could easily move away, and find the same sort of event happening at the new location.

 

My thoughts are with you all.

[Couperman]

I am so sorry to hear this terrible news.

 

I don't think moving would solve anything, this is a cancer that is affecting everywhere, even idilic beautiful places.

 

It is time for zero tolerance policing. We need to claim our streets back.

 

I hope all the 'do-gooders' are proud of themselves for creating this mess.

 

Removing all power/respect from Teachers, Police ,Firefighters, etc. is now proving to be, as expected by anyone with any sense at all, a very very bad idea.

 

Hearing tragic news like this on a daily basis makes my blood boil, it is such a senseless waste.

 

Kev.

[Seagazer]

Thanks again for all the messages of support on here and to those who have pm'd me.

 

I don't know what to say really, just that we'll see how things go. I have a friend who is a counsellor and perhaps if ES needs it then we will go down that route. At the moment he is spending time with his friends, I think it helps them all.

 

It is unbelievable how the effect of something like this happening ripples outwards and affects everyone in some way. My hopes are that his parents are strong enough to get through this, they have Jamie to keep going as well. The boys that were injured will mend, hopefully they will learn to live with what has happened to Rob, although this will obviously take time.

 

Roxanne - I'm so sorry about your husband. This is the trouble nowadays, people are so worried that if they help they will get attacked. I'm glad he has been able to move on from it.

[Cate in NZ]

Seagazer, I'm another who knows Sidcup really well, and find it hard to believe such a mindless tragedy could happen in the area .

 

My son (who has just about completed year 11...just a couple of exams to go ) at the very large boys school in Sidcup had briefly met Jimmy Mizen (a friend of a friend relationship) and was a bit bruised by hearing about him.... so I can't begin to imagine how difficult it must be for your son right now, and for you to try to support him through the unimaginable. My sympathies go out to you.

 

On the subject of moving it's a big decision, and the difficult part is leaving behind friends and family and all your support networks, and unfortunately I think if this kind of crime can happen out of the blue to an innocent, talented young man in Sidcup it can happen anywhere

[Egluntyne]

Have pm'd you Seagazer.

[Basset]

My son (who has just about completed year 11...just a couple of exams to go ) at the very large boys school in Sidcup

 

What a small world! I used to live in a side road directly opposite the school.

[Seagazer]

I have to say that I don't know Jimmy Mizen but I do use his father's shop. The week after Jimmy was murdered two of his brothers were back working in the shop. As I was queuing to get a key cut there was a constant stream of people coming in with messages of support and cards.

 

Jimmy's dad is such a nice man, I think you can tell that from their reaction after Jimmy died. He was always so helpfull in the shop, whatever you wanted done he would always try to do it.

 

They are an inspiration, if only every family could be like them.

[Roxanne]

Roxanne - I'm so sorry about your husband. This is the trouble nowadays, people are so worried that if they help they will get attacked. I'm glad he has been able to move on from it.

Thanks Seagazer - after saying he had moved on, he was out yesterday afternoon and a teenager on a bike came up behind him and shouted to someone across the street and he said he shook uncontrollably thinking he had been targeted again.

He said to tell you to keep an eye on the boys - because it is not easy to suppress this incident... infact it shouldn't be suppressed but dealt with openly as it could affect them in the future.

Our hearts go out to all involved, and we send you all our love and support...

[theherd123]

Love and hugs to you & your family Seagazer and to you and your husband Roxanne.

 

Nothing i can write will ease any pain but you are all in my thoughts.

[missuscluck]

I watched the interview with the familly and cryed. Seagazer, I hope your son is ok, and whatever support he needs I hope he gets it.

[Ain't Nobody Here]

Saw on the internet tonight that another teenager has died after being beaten up by a gang. Another lad has been stabbed in London but it's not life-threatening.

 

I really despair.

[Tessa the Duchess]

Saw on the internet tonight that another teenager has died after being beaten up by a gang. Another lad has been stabbed in London but it's not life-threatening.

 

I really despair.

 

I despair too, it is almost a daily occurance There were three stabbings in different parts of London last weekend, non fatal thank goodness. They seem to have a young man remmanded in custody for the Sidcup murder.

 

Tessa

[Seagazer]

Lets hope that the judicial system doesn't let us all down now and that they actually send him to prison for a very, very long time.

 

We are taking our son away for a couple of days tomorrow, just to get him away. He must be feeling bad as he's never been to the caravan before (and we've had it a year!).

[Tessa the Duchess]

A short break for you all sounds like a great idea. I hope you have a lovely time despite the sorrow you are all feeling.

 

Tessaxx

[chelsea]

Saw on the internet tonight that another teenager has died after being beaten up by a gang. Another lad has been stabbed in London but it's not life-threatening.

 

I really despair.

 

I've just seen that too.

 

Sorry to hear of what's happened seagazer (how truly awful) and what a worrying time for you,

 

All the best.

[Seagazer]

My son has just phoned me from his 'vigil' at the Somerfield store to say that someone else has been stabbed but near the High Street. I've looked it up on the internet and there it is - another stabbing. I don't believe it.

 

I am going to a meeting that the police are holding close to where Rob died, they are running it to try to allay our fears - think they may be too late.

 

What the hell is happening to this country. When will someone come up with a way to stop all this crime.

[Tessa the Duchess]

Good grief Apparently this stabbing occured in the course of a street robbery. I think the penalties for carrying a knife should be severely hiked, but then again there is no room in the prisons for more people, it's all quite hopeless really

 

Tessa

[Ain't Nobody Here]

I don't believe it . How awful .

[Tessa the Duchess]

Good grief Apparently this stabbing occured in the course of a street robbery. I think the penalties for carrying a knife should be severely hiked, but then again there is no room in the prisons for more people, it's all quite hopeless really

 

Tessa

[Seagazer]

Relatives were saying today that Liverpool has been doing this 'zero tolerance' thing that New York did and that the crime rate went down. Why can it not be done here? And by here I mean in the whole of the UK.

 

My YS is now looking on the internet for a new house because he doesn't want to live here anymore. Yet my ES has told me that he won't move if we do. What do you do?

 

Beam me up Scotty - I've had enough!

[Paola]

My son has just phoned me from his 'vigil' at the Somerfield store to say that someone else has been stabbed but near the High Street. I've looked it up on the internet and there it is - another stabbing. I don't believe it.

 

I am truly speechless. Words fail me What is it going to take for the government to sit up and do something about it

[Basset]

Oh no, how absolutely terrible! Another stabbling - I can't believe it. The world is going crazy - what is going on???? I find it so unbelievable that certain people can have such a lack of respect for other humans.

 

I walked past the Magistrates Court in Bexleyheath today and saw the pack of press gathered outside, awaiting the arrival of the youth that has been detained for the murder. I hope he gets the keys thrown away.