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Chickens and The Law (things I didn't know)

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No interest in your s"Ooops, word censored!"s or CORN even :shock::D

Without sounding patronizing, im sure your cooking is lovely

 

 

Well, thanks, but... other than the occassional Jamaican or Italian dish I grew up cooking at home, or the annual birthday cakes, I'm not really appreciated in the kitchen by child, man or beast. I'm a humbled woman. :cry:

 

But... I put a trickle of apple cider vinegar in the superglug this morning, and they now think I am a goddess. So all is not lost :)

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Dis the article state actual laws, or is it that these are Defra guidelines, or specific rules for commercial egg layers? My hens don't like green leaves from te kitchen anyway - they prefer green leaves sticking out of a seed tray and supposedly destined for growing on my allotment!

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But... I put a trickle of apple cider vinegar in the superglug this morning, and they now think I am a goddess. So all is not lost :)

 

You are funny Stephanie. That made my cuppa come down my nose. :D

 

You want funny? Put yer cup down... imagine an unsuspecting Yank moving to England from a country where the word "cider" means non-alcholic beverage you can drink like juice with no ill effects upon your person. Now, imagine her at her first BBQ with her impending inlaws... I'll let you picture the details... the ambulance team thought it was funny anyway... All I'm saying it that I'm making sure the chickens' apple cider vinegar doesn't get mixed up with the bottles on the counter top, or they'll be falling off their perches tonight :shock:

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maybe we should start a new thread about common misconceptions about frequently-used English terms!

 

We used to have an American guy working here, he loved the UK but he had a fund of funny stories about things he'd misunderstood. The first time he was in our office and someone said 'I'm going outside for a fag' he was extremely confused. :wink:

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maybe we should start a new thread about common misconceptions about frequently-used English terms!

 

Oh, well, if that gets started, I am so there. I mean verbal-linguistic misunderstandings are the basis for my marriage to a lovely Welsh-English husband. They are also the basis for our impending divorce -- we both have a divorce lawyer on retainer... just in case a stray word gets said during Countdown.

 

Now, if you start that thread, remind me to tell you guys about the time we nearly came to blows about the phrase "have a curry." :lol:

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Imagine the raised eyebrows when my friends American father in law needed an early morning wake up call in order to catch a plane and she offered to "knock him up in the morning".

 

It is still talked about at family gatherings both sides of the pond...ten years on. :D

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Imagine the raised eyebrows when my friends American father in law needed an early morning wake up call in order to catch a plane and she offered to "knock him up in the morning".

 

That one always makes me pause.

 

Then there's the British habit of using only a person's first syllable of their name as a nickname -- i.e., Brendan becomes Bren, Alan Al, Glyndwr Glyn -- all fine. But when you're marrying into a family with a Julian, you don't want them all landing in NY's Kennedy airport shouting, "There's Ju! There's Ju! Ju! Ju! Ju!"... Now. I warnnnned them about thaaaattt. Do they listen to me? No. No one listens to the Yank relative, until irate Immigration officers become involved and the body cavity searches begin.

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:lol: I like your style Stephanie

 

No, it's you guys who are great. No one in my family laughs at my jokes... they think I am distinctly unfunny. I am so chuffed (ah, see 'chuffed', British word, I am acclimating!) to have made someone spit their coffee... 2x's in one day. This forum is so cool. 8)

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Now that was an entertaining read :D ...

 

Only just remembered what it was about to start with :P Sorry to get back to things, pls all feel free to go on with the parallel thread too, but honestly, I thought feeding my chooks leftovers was just obvious... we are vegetarian, so I guess no meat issues, but our chooks always get leftover pasta, rice, and all kinds of stuff (they love the occasional pizza)... when the guy from Omlet brought them here, he even said 'they can have anything except meat and sweets'... never mentioned 'nothing from your kitchen'... all treats they get come from my kitchen... not necessarily my plate, but my kitchen... even sweetcorn comes from my kitchen... does that mean the law only allows chooks to be fed on pellets/mash/chook food?? The way I first heard from omlet, was in a book about being greener, which suggested getting chooks as pets and as leftover hoovers...

 

I had come across this 'no left overs' or 'kitchen stuff' once before, but doesn't seem to be so well known... I'm sure I've heard lots of omleteers mention them giving veg s"Ooops, word censored!"s or sharing stuff with their chooks too...

 

Is that all illegal??

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Mine get all sorts via my kitchen Ziggy....apart from meat. Although I do give them organic cat food very occasionally. Not prepared by me, but I do open the tin in my kitchen so I suppose you could argue etc.....

 

I shall continue to give my hens s"Ooops, word censored!"s, and unless Defra have a mole on the forum, I doubt they'll ever find out.

 

In anycase, which is worse, to feed it to a hen or put it in a landfill site. :D

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I think that our hens are the most efficient recyclers I have ever come across; you feed chook feed, kitchen s"Ooops, word censored!"s, garden bits and pieces, slugs and bugs in one end... and out of the other end you get delicious eggs and compost/fertiliser.

 

Not to mention the hours of fun!

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Is that all illegal??

 

It's as illegal as you want it to be Ziggy. :D

 

Oh, I just don't think DEFRA, or whoever makes the rules, has caught up with the boom in garden poultry keeping. They will have to soon and the laws will need to be clarified and to catch up. Or re-catch-up, as the case may be, because a few of us are old enough to know (to know people who are old enough) to remember when keeping a few chickens in the garden was commonplace in some parts of the country.

 

I think the rules are worded for large or commercial flocks. Or for those who sell their eggs and need to label them appropriately and not spread contamination, etc, etc,... I mean... I think the law also requires that poultry keepers have mats soaked in Virkon for everyone to step in and out of the poultry-keeping area. But how manyof us have wet, antiviral mats at our kitchen doorways? No, the police in Britain barely have the manpower to keep up with the hardened criminals on the streets. I cannot see a task force raiding ye olde cottage garden any time soon, over a few tidbits of pasta and rice and some chooks who refuse to properly wipe their feet.

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Do poultry dealers have to pass on details of flock owners to defra maybe? I know when I bought hens I had to supply my name and address on the receipt :shock:

 

Maybe big DEFRA is watching us :!:

 

Like some of the other forum members have mentioned, I also 'accidentally' cook too much sometimes which happens to find its way out to the chooks.

 

Blame the children for not eating enough!

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Satellites are wonderful things nowadays - we can log on to our postcode and see all the gardens in the neighbourhood. DEFRA could apply the same tactic, so just in case . . .

 

"On Sky News tonight, we have a report that the Army and Navy stores around the country have been totally emptied of camouflage netting. We are trying to get our reporters on the case to see who, why and where these nets have ended up - could it be a possible terrorist threat?"

 

Eglu and Cube owners, that's where! :wink:

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I was searching for 'cat food' and found this topic, and was interested to see a couple of you let your chooks have it (either by accident or design...). Mine finished the Sheba the cats had ignored a couple of days ago, now as soon as I let them out they run into the utility room looking for more. It seems to beat all other food ! I don't feel comfortable with them having it, but I guess it won't hurt them on those days they move quicker than I do....

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The trouble with hens is that the law says they mustn't have meat, but by nature they are scavengers who love meat more than anything.

 

I really can't see any harm in giving them a little meat if it is well cooked. (As I understand it, it was the lack of cooking and undercooked burgers that caused the problems with BSE -- and of course giving sick dead animals to vegetarian animals in the first place).

 

My hens don't get much meat: I just give them the occasional bone to pick, and it keeps them happily occupied all day.

 

But if your hens have had any meat, you must not give away or sell your eggs. I think that is where I would draw the line.

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