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[Ain't Nobody Here]

You're not a stupid teenager at all. Sorry I can't offer any real advice but I hope having all of us to let off steam to helps. I suppose sometimes "adults" think that "kids" don't need to know all the facts in their lives. I can't say whether that's right or wrong in this case but I can still understand why you feel angry .

[tom123]

Sorry to hear it and your not a stupid teenager cause that would mean I'm 1 too!

 

I am only 14 so not at college but have a hell of a lot of homework at the mo what with all the 'options' and whatever and there isn't enough time in the day! I have spent nearly all day getting corn and hemcore, cleaning both chicken houses out, cleaning the rabbit house out, going shopping for my friends birthday then do a little bit of homework now I have to babysit my little brother!

 

My parents are ALWAYS arguing and I can hear them from upstairs in my room. My brother gets upset about it and asks me if they hate each other

 

 

Try not to worry about your Dad and focus on your work (thats what my mum tells me )

 

Tom

[Chickvic]

We all need to let of steam sometimes and this is as good a place as any! Can't offer any advice really but we'll listen whenever you need to rant.

[fowlbird]

it wasn't a pathetic rant - I'm really annoyed with your mother! She violated your privacy - how would she feel if you did that to her.

 

but to be fair it sounds as if things have been rough for them and they're going to get worse. That's not your fault and it's not your responsibility. However, be as co-operative as you can, don't get "Ooops, word censored!"y - that won't help but be as positive towards your parents as you can.

 

your parents will be difficult to talk to especially with all that's going on. Parents are difficult to talk to anyway because you are a teenager and very very bad at communicating - did you know that?

 

they're reeling from the shock and worried about the future, you and your brother are probably worrying about exams and the future and whether or not your best friends really like you?

 

does that sound as if I'm preaching? I hope not - I wish you all the best and you can always come here to rant - just don't let your mum know your password

[Phoebe]

I know its hard Laura, but as a parent of a 17 year old, I'd suggest you try to talk to your mum. Tell her how you feel - or if thats too hard, leave her a note when you are next out.

Sometimes we only see things from our point of view, and don't always appreciate yours !

 

Its never stupid to say what you feel; many things can be made better by talking to others about them, mothers included. You have right to your own feelings, and to explain to others how their actions make ou feel.

 

lecture over.

[BeckyBoo]

How awful for you, you've a lot to take in about your Dad's job as well. The only thing I can say in your parents defence about not telling about the job thing is that parents are just people, that's all they can be. I used to think my Mum and Dad "knew" stuff, like they always just "knew" the answers to things, I look at all the other Mums and Dads that I know or see on the school run and I just assume that they all "know what they are doing" and that it's only me that is stumbling blindly along making it up as I go along. I don't feel an awful lot different now in some things than I did when I was 19, I like to think I'm a bit wiser but bringing up kids and trying to do the right thing, I'm not much better at getting that right now than I ever was.

With a lot of parenting your damned if you do and damned if you don't. If they'd have told you you'd have had 2 months of extra worry, all through the Christmas period too, they probably wanted to shield you from it, I know I want to keep my kids away from everything that could possibly hurt or worry them. So they didn't tell you and now you're cross that they kept it from you. I would think they had the best intentions, try not to be too hard on them.

 

The using your password thing was a bit much, I can't think your Mum would like it if you used hers in the same way, bit thoughtless really. But she's obviously got a lot going on, lots to worry about, hopefully it was just a aberration, a hiccup and something that won't happen again. Try to talk to her, from your other posts I kind of thought you had a good relationship with your Mum.

 

(Remember, your parents are people, and that's all they can be" - quote from Loudon Wainright the Third)

 

BeckyBoo

[fowlbird]

I guess my parents must feel like absolute poo at the moment .. But to hear them argue that like actually made me feel like packing a bag and leaving. The evenings at the weekend are the only time when I get time to myself to think about things, and come on here and talk to mates on facebook and stuff. (My brother wants the internet at 11pm though ).

perhaps you and your brother could, together, tell them how this makes you feel? Maybe then they'll find some other way of relieving the tension.

 

((((scrambled)))) ((((scrambled's brother))))) and ((((her parents))))

 

(On tuesday evening, I got home from college, grabbed Baby from the Cube, wrapped her in a towel and sat in the summerhouse with her. Cried into her feathers too :oops: . Hens are good to tell your problems to, they sit there clucking gently while you unload your worries . Who needs Jeremy Kyle when you got hens ay?

hens are the best! I did an MPhil. in Women's Studies - try your hen on feminist theory - mine knew it all - they practically wrote my papers for me I couldn't have got that Masters without them.

[ClaireG]

I would have been very annoyed about the password thing as well. Im 40 and my parents still don't tell me stuff It does sound if though it's going to be a stressful time for you all, prehaps your parents don't realise how it effects you and your brother.

[Lesley]

Invasion of privacy like that is not on, no matter how bad things are, it's no excuse!

 

I hope you manage to keep your new password to yourself.

 

I was well in my thirties before I realised that parents are just people - they make mistakes, just like everyone else. Once I got past that point I got on a lot better with them

[Cinnamon]

Goodness Laura, I would be annoyed too

 

There is no way I would invade my daughters privacy like that.

They no this too & respect me for it. I do ask them to keep a chat log of MSN conversations, as they are younger than you & I do worry about them,especially my youngest girl.

 

It seems to me that your parents are not treating you as the young adult you are unless there is something they want (babysitting!)

Tell them that you are not a small child any more & deserve to be treated as an adult if they are going to impose on you like an adult.

[Seagazer]

Oh I'm so sorry Laura, it must be very upsetting for you. I agree your mum was wrong in using your password and chatting to your friends. I wouldn't dream of doing that with my kids (well I have with the little one but he's only 11 and I wanted to check who he was talking to - safety etc).

 

Its a tricky thing with your dad's redundancy because as parents our first instinct is to try to protect our kids so probably thats why they didn't tell you. It is very stressfull to lose your job, we've been through it twice and its horrid so I can understand why your parents are arguing. My OH always wants to keep these sort of things private from the kids but I think our oldest two at 21 and 17 are old enough to know. Money is tight at the moment and I've told them this so that they don't think we can just buy whatever they want.

 

I think you should sit down with your brother and your parents and talk to them about how you are feeling. Tell them you are worried as you've heard them arguing and its upsetting you both. I think then perhaps you can all pull together and come up with some ideas to help each other through this tough time.

[dancing cloud]

Rant away - it's what we're here for (and you can listen to us when it's our turn!)

 

Arguing - my dad got made redundant when I was 16 and I still remember what a difficult and stressful time it was, particularly as it was the age of the yuppie and my dad, at the age I am now, was told he was too old for most jobs . Their marriage made it, but there were certainly some harsh words said along the way. At least now you and your brother know, you can let them know you are around to make sensible contributions to the debate .

 

Privacy - my mum is one of the nosiest people on the planet and it's still really irritating (I'm nearly 44 by the way!). I'm sure yours didn't mean any harm, but don't tell her that new passord.

 

Keep talking to your chooks for good advice . I talk to my cats too, but they get bored more easily when they realise it's not about them! Daisy is my cuddly hen and always seems to know when I need a chat and a bit of support - they are lovely to have around . And come back and rant away to us on here any time. Like Lesley, I now appreciate my parents just as they are (after all, I'm too old to put myself up for adoption by anyone else ), but they can still be incredibly annoying at times (and we promise not to tell them )

[jess]

Was she pretending to be you on msn? if so that is a massive invasion of your privacy

[Ardene5]

Hi

Pass words if you use , or . or = or + or numbers to replace letters in your pass work it will make it harder for any one to get on to your site.

 

For example .1nv0ic3 which is the word .Invoice with a dot before the word

 

Hope this helps

 

Best regards

 

Ian

[BarbaraJ]

Was she pretending to be you on msn? if so that is a massive invasion of your privacy

 

I dont know .. I got a text off one of my mates saying "I was just going to ask if you were comin online, but you're here now so dont worry" .. I first thought that someone had hacked on from another computer, or it was my brother, so went upstairs and found my mum sat there .. .

 

I can hear my mum saying to my brother now "ignore her she's just a little girl, you're nearly 19 blah blah blah" .. They treat me like I'm a 6 year old for goodness sake! It really does make me so angry.

 

For once, I'm actually looking forward to going back to college tomorrow .

 

I have 3 kids still at home 17, 19 and 22 and i think saying that to your brother is well out of order they expect you to act like an adult when it suits them for babysitting but not the rest of the time. i can understand you feeling angry along with the password issue. You need to have a chat explaining how you feel without it getting into an argument or if you think you will lose it write it down.

[jess]

I think these times in our lives from the daughters perspective is to show you how your parents are actually people. who say and do and believe things which you perceive to be completely insane just like you would someone you met at work or on the street.

 

My boyfriend has never really fallen out with his parents- and you can tell! if he has a problem better ask mum or dad what they think!!!!! or if he thinks theyre wrong theyre probably right!!!!

 

he is getting better though...

 

But I really do think that it is meant to show you that they are only human which is why i think people have better relationships as they get older they dont do what their parents say more, they just know how to behave what not to say (most of the time) and how to make them feel appreciated which really I think is all they want!

 

Just remember you are all humans entitled to your own emotions. Try and keep your head down while this job things goes on, I know how hard it is believe me.

 

x

[chickenanne]

it sounds like your parents ar going through a really rough time just now. It's always going to make a household more "prickly", so feel free to rant as much as you like, it isn't daft or childish.

I reckon living with people is really difficult as an adult, so it's no wonder that at 17 life at home gets bumpy.

 

As to your passwords etc: that isn't really on. My dad is incredibly intrusive, when I was 17 (Am 35 now, no idea how that happened!) he always listened in to phonecalls etc if he could. Now, he will still read anything left lying about the house (this is my house, when he comes to visit) and poke around in drawers and cupboards when my back's turned. it annoys me as much now as it did when I was 17. He always complains to my sister that I'm really secretive around him.... So, you'll no doubt be delighted to know that parent problems are unending !

 

It's worth trying to speak to your Mum about your passwords etc if you can. If she understands how you feel about it, not that you've anything to hide but that you need some privacy, then hopefully when you're 35 you'll not be buying dodgy items to "hide" in cupboards to embarass your parents. not that I'm petty and childish enough to do that, you understand .

[Tiggy]

it sounds as if your mum and dad are having a hard time at the moment, and acting like teenagers themselves we all do it sometimes. I'm sure you can change your password to something your mum wouldn't think of, keep it secure in your phone if you cannot remember it.

 

Just remember they do love you both really