Mel (& Paul) Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Probably Snowy We used to use that phrase too. I remember that it went from unconsciously incompetent to consciously competent, but can't remember the bits in between Something to do with conscious senility I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I learnt it as a square with 2 columns and 2 rows. One column was incompetent and the other competent. One row was unconscious and the other conscious. So there are 4 permutations. I've never forgotten it and we often refer to it in a joking way actually! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theherd123 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 (edited) I learnt it as a square with 2 columns and 2 rows. This is known as Joharis Window i think Edited November 27, 2006 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnieP Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Ooohh! Get her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feemcg Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 I've never heard of the 4 levels before - hope I move through them quickly though! And I certainly hope theres no incontinence involved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theherd123 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Ooohh! Get her! Just completed a course where it was mentioned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 You see, add all our addled brains together and we get a whole nurse!! (eventually!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I learnt it as a square with 2 columns and 2 rows. This is known as Joharis Window i think Well, I don't think they called it that when I was training. Perhaps the lecturer couldn't pronounce it! I'm also getting the impression people think you move through the 4 stages. I was taught that you can move from any box to any other. The one you want to help people avoid is the conscious incompetent because that is just plain depressing! And the people you want to avoid like the plague are the unconscious incompetents! I think they have to become conscious before they can become competent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feemcg Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 Eh?...now I really wish I hadn't drunk that bottle of wine (because I was told to, wasn't I Emma?, for medicinal purposes, for the hectic day I've had!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
