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[Chicken Mad]

I read somewhere on the forum that you can put pinch of the Flubenvet on a grape or other treat each day for each chicken for 7 days, therefore no need for feed mixing and withdrawing treats! I think I would find it harder then my girls not to give them treats.

 

I need to do some de-worming with my girls but don't like this feed mixing malarkey. Would anybody recomend trying Flubenvet on treats?

 

Also the Flubenvet 2.5% was recomended on the forum. Is that what you use? Only the Omlet or our local poultry supply shop do not appear to sell it. I found some on the Amazon website but only 1%. Shall I go with that one?

 

Kind Regards

[Plum]

No sorry, feed mixing is really easy measure 2 kg mix in a bit of oil stir well then the flubenvet and you know they are getting the right dose all day. You are dosing the worms not the chicken.

I do give extras but either mix dosed feed with it or add a touch of flubenvet to whatever I give them.

[chicken bark]

I use the 1% - it works out more expensive in the long run but it is easier to get hold of and the maths is slightly easier.

 

Personally I don't like the idea of putting it on treats. They might get more than they need as not all hens eat the same amount. I don't think it is intended to use it on treats. However if that is the only way you can get your chickens to take it then you'd have to do it.

 

Just not for me.

[Egluntyne]

The manufacturers instrutions are clear about the need to mix the medication with the feed, so that it is given at the correct ratio throughout the day, and not in one hit. You may have disappointing results if you don't follow them.

[Chicken shack]

I am worming for the first time and it is easy. Just mix the scoop provided with 2kg of feed and a dash of cod liver oil and mix very very well. Try not to give them any treats only if you need to get them in the run after FR. Some say don't free range but the weather has been so nice not to alow them out. I can't believe I am giving advice I have only had my girls since August!

[Forge Cottage]

We are worming our four girls this week with Flubenvet, which with my maths works out at only a teaspoonful. It is difficult to administer an even dose totaling just a quarter of a teaspoon per hen per week on grapes. It is easy to overdose and it can pass through them too fast. They advise it is most effective mixed with the feed (although I have used the grape option when I was targeting one hen before now).

 

We first mix the Flubenvet in a couple of day's worth of pellets in a 'bag for life', then add the other 5 days pellets, hold the top of the bag and turn until all mixed well. I often add some poultry spice for good measure. Then we keep the medicated bag at the top of the feed bin until it is finished.

 

We normally start to see worms in the poo about three days in, sure enough this happened today . It is always good to know it is working!

[jill the potter]

Here's a thought, which I'm not endorsing. A local vet says he never worms his chickens and says he doesn't feel the need to!!!! Is this an option?

[chicken bark]

jill the potter - I think if your chickens FR over acres then there is no need to really worm them, especially if part of their diet consists of natural wormers (Carrots, pumpkin seeds etc.). Mine don't have quite that much space and I'd rather worm them with Flubenvet twice a year just to be certain.

 

My neighbour has never wormed theirs with no problems.

[The Dogmother]

The reason for mixing the Flubenvet in with the pellets is because the medication needs to be consumed over time rather than in one hit. There was debate about this last year and Janssen (makers of Flubenvet) confirmed that it shouldn't be given in porridge or on treats.

[beach chick]

well, I have officially abandoned the treats method as of this morning. have mixed 4.75kg of food with just over 5g of flubenvet (calculated according to the pack), mixed all up well in a bag for live with cod liver oil, and replenished the feeders.

Unfortunately, they have taken one look - or sniff - and all walked away!! I can see I am going to have to harden my heart.

[The Dogmother]

Just leave them to it - they'll get hungry and eat it eventually.

[beach chick]

just been out to collect eggs (all 3 of them) - they still not impressed, but I WILL win!!

[Roobaloo]

I'm getting confused now....

 

do you mix up one full amount and leave it until they eat it all or do you mix a daily dose?

[beach chick]

hi Roobaloo - I have mixed up a big bag full, and intend to feed that over the next few days til it runs out, then I will make some more til I've completed the 7 days. otherwise you have to faff about every day... mind you given the way mine are looking at it, it's going to take a while to get eaten!!

[The Dogmother]

Mix it all up in one go - unless you only have two chickens, then you should mix up say half the amounts proportionally. You can always mix up a bit more if needed.

[beach chick]

ooh, they hate me at the moment!! every time I go out they come running to complain. however they are eating at least some of the pellets - do I just keep going for the full week, or if they are not eating much should I continue for longer?

NO treats til this is complete, cant help the FR thing, but to be honest their choice is grass, bugs, worms etc.

[The Dogmother]

Just keep them on it for a week - they'll soon be so hungry that they wolf it down.

[beach chick]

they are still turning on the guilt trip! but some has been eaten. they are hanging around the gate, and very ostentatiously scratching at the grass whenever I approach...

[chickanne]

Guilt trip.

Have just finished a week of worming two chooks by putting a pinch of flubenvet in a bowl of the omlet feed they prefer to the organic layers pellets they normally eat. At least I know they have eaten their daily dose as they eat the lot. The layers pellets are in the grub as well so they can have all the food they want - I just know they will eat the other medicated food first.

 

Are they more likely to get worms on grass or dirt??

 

I have been moving them around the (big) lawn since I got them in July and letting them FR before and after work. Now the days are getting shorter I will be moving the Eglu into an old chicken run that is brick and dirt so that they get a confined 2m by 10m safe space they can come and go at will in.

[The Dogmother]

They key to worming is to not just treat the birds, but also the litter/soil that they live on in order to kill off the worm eggs. Stalosan does this, as does BioDri, or the new nettex ground sanitising powder. All should keep bacteria and worm counts down.

[Steve the Gas]

While hens are FR - they pick up worms from slugs/snails that they eat.

[Chucky Mama]

Guilt trip.

Have just finished a week of worming two chooks by putting a pinch of flubenvet in a bowl of the omlet feed they prefer to the organic layers pellets they normally eat. At least I know they have eaten their daily dose as they eat the lot. The layers pellets are in the grub as well so they can have all the food they want - I just know they will eat the other medicated food first.

 

 

It really is better to use the Flubenvet as per the instructions. The medicated feed really needs to be fed exclusively for the full 7 days. It really needs to be in their system for the whole day in order to kill all worms. If you use Flubenvet as prescribed you should be able to do them every 3-4 months without much of a worry inbetween. If you know that your birds enjoy the omlet feed you could just mix the required amount with 2kg of that and feed over the week. It is perhaps a little like taking all of your antibiotics in 1 dose instead of several. You have taken the required amount but not in the way intended

[Donna C]

O'k, now i'm really really confused I use v-mex ( as recommended by breeder) for the first 3days of everu month mixed in water. Do keep an eye on poohs and no nasties. But everybody keeps talking about flubenvet. Am i doing it wrong, should i use both Please help make thing clear

[Steve the Gas]

Vermx is more of a preventative than a cure. Flub or similar is the only way to know that the nematodes will be eradicated.

[Jools]

It's up to you and how well you feel Verm-x is keeping worms at bay. I'm a Verm-x user (3-4 days in their water once per month) and I have a droppings sample tested annually to make sure it's working. I don't use any ground sanitisers but they do have two areas, one is grass for April-Oct and one is woodchip (and leaves and grass and weeds) for Nov-March. That way the ground gets a rest which also breaks any parasite cycle.

 

Flubenvet is a licensed wormer added to feed for seven consecutive days. The manufacturers suggest dosing four times per year, but many use it just in spring and autumn. If you think your poultry have a worm problem, then it's probably safer to use Flubenvet regularly. I'd have thought that if you were using Flubenvet four times a year, there would be no need to use a ground sanitiser though.

 

HTH