Carolinep Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 My eldest whos 11, has had a problem with night time bedwetting for quite a number of years. There was a time when he used to try to conceal his wet pyjamas under furniture and put his pillow on top of the wet patch in bed to try to get back to sleep. He is now quite open about when he wets his bed but we haven't been able to tackle it full on. What I'm trying to get around to asking is if any other Omleters have had similar experiences with their children & how they tackled the problem. I was still bedwetting at a similar age, apparently it is genetic. I have looked on the internet for info , the opinion seems to be that a hormome that is supposed to be produced to reduce the production of urine at night isn't being produced properly. We are looking into alarms as the way to go as the medication route is not a nice one to take. Anyone used the alarms?? Any thoughts or experiences greatfully appreciated as I am not too sure what to do. Poor lad he's been on the rough end of so much, this is something else to add to the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starboyhull Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Hi Caroline, I have no knownldge of this at all but I have used hypnosis in the past with success here is a link to a company I have used and can recommend...... http://www.hypnosisdownloads.com/downloads/hypnotherapy/bed-wetting.html I hope this helps. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Oh poor you I thought I was struggling with my four year old Hope you find an answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochoo Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Hi, I've delt with bed wetting children on hospitals wards before. It is a condition that you generally grow out of. Apart from the hypnosis which has already been mentioned you can also restrict quantities of drinks before bedtime i.e. no fluids 1 hour before bed and no tea or coffee 3 hours before. The other method which works really well but appears a little cruel is to wake him up in the middle of the night and escort him to the toilet this encourages the brain the notice during sleep hours when the bladder is full. After a couple of weeks he will hopefully wake himself up to go. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 A friend of mine had the smae problem with her son who was around the same age. I can't remember the precise details, but her Doctor suggested cutting out all drinks with additives, as they can irritate the bladder. They did it, & it worked It worked almost right away too - might be worth a shot??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkleeeeee Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 we have a friend with similar problems with their little girl, she has just been to see the specialist and they said that they can solve over half the problems by cutting out blackcurrant. does he drink blackcurrant? seems weird but it apparently is an irritant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolinep Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 Thanks for all the replies. We have tried cutting down the amount of liquid in take & lifting during the night for the toilet. These unfortunately have made no difference. Re additives in drinks, he doesn't have any fizzy drinks, blackcurrant or such like. It really is a mystery, a very frustrating one at that. We have tried to see if he will grow out of it, but at 11 years old going to secondary school in September it would be a miracle. We have had similar with his stammer ( also inherited from my side of the family), we were told when he was 3 that he would grow out of it. This I do know is unlikely, he has had to learn to manage it when he has difficulties. I do try to tell myself that when he's older & gets married he won't be wetting the bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Have you looked at the ...ERIC... (Education and Resources for Improving Childhood Continence) website. There is lots of useful info there. I've always thought that taking a child to the toilet in the middle of the night just encourages them to pee in their sleep, as they never wake up properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 We had a problem with our eldest, who became dry at night when we potty-trained him, but after two bouts of pnuemonia within 3 months, he started to wet again at night. To begin with out GP was unconcerned, stating that bedwetting was common, but as he got older we took advice from a different gp, who recommended waking him before we went to bed, and taking him to the loo. You have to make sure they are awake enough to hold a semi-coherent conversation with you, but it worked quickly and effectively. As he got into the habit of going to the loo, we had to slowly 'wean' him off the nighttime visit, by just waking him, and asking if he needed to go - giving him the chance to say no, if he didn;t really need, before letting him go 'solo' so to speak. Now we often hear him getting up around 10:30, to go for a wee, without any help or prompting, and we haven't had a wet bed for a long, long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolinep Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 Have you looked at the ...ERIC... (Education and Resources for Improving Childhood Continence) website. There is lots of useful info there. I've always thought that taking a child to the toilet in the middle of the night just encourages them to pee in their sleep, as they never wake up properly. Thanks Egluntine, I found that site yesterday, it is indeed very interesting. We have printed a lot of the info for him to read so that he can feel included and know what/why it happens. We need to have his full co-operation, he is inclined to do the ostrich thing when he has a problem ( just like his father ) Chookiehen, We have given waking him up a go, but he sleeps so deeply. Unlike his younger brother who would wake to a pin drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGirlsMum Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 My 8 year old daughter has the same "problem" We don't give evening drinks only have real fruit juice etc. We tried lifting her to go to the toilet but as we were/are unable to fully waken her this has no effect. We have been told different things like breathing problems could be a cause, but she's had grommits and adanoids sorted. So the last thing we are hoping will help is the on set of hormone changes. We considered the alarm route but she can sleep right though ringing and buzzing alarms.. So Im with you on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkleeeeee Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 i think it is really good you are tring to include him in your research. it must be very hard for him, my brothers wet the bed untill they were about 13. my father used to shout at them and try to shame them out of it (by then he was a single parent of three working fulltime and trying to pay my runaway mothers bills, so he was stressed) the doctors thought the bedwetting was stress from the family breakdown. it must be a great weight on his mind and when he has residential school trips it will be a real problem for him another thing my friend said the specialist said, is to makle sure that they drink loads in the day to stretch the bladder and limit drink at night and then the bladder doesnt think it needs to be emptied at night because it is larger and isnt full. also have you checked that there isnt something partially waking him at night like a timer or dishwasher turning off. he might partially wake but not enough to get up and go to the toilet my little boy does this when the pub has a band on during the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 It's interesting what you say about him being hard to wake - he obviously sleeps very deeply. Just wondering if there may be a link there - I know when my son sleeps very soundly, ie after a very busy day, then that is when he is most likely to have a wet bed. Not sure what could be done about it though, just curious that that appears to be a common factor. Hope you are able to get it sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh sarah Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 hi have you asked your gp if there is an enuresis clinic in your area, they are generally run by paediatricians in the community and they specialise in this sort of thing they also have the alarms to lend you if that is the recommended route but most importantly they will do any checks to ensure there is no underlying reason i.e urine infection which can easily be treated hope this is of some help, it is a very common problem so i wouldnt worry sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolinep Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 My 8 year old daughter has the same "problem" We don't give evening drinks only have real fruit juice etc. We tried lifting her to go to the toilet but as we were/are unable to fully waken her this has no effect. We have been told different things like breathing problems could be a cause, but she's had grommits and adanoids sorted. So the last thing we are hoping will help is the on set of hormone changes. We considered the alarm route but she can sleep right though ringing and buzzing alarms.. So Im with you on this one Luke had grommits when he was 3, has night time nose bleeds on occasions (gp says they're not regular enough to do anything about ) He had his residential week in the isle of wight a couple of weeks ago. I made sure that his teacher knew about the wetting so that they were prepared as we have had many issues with bullying from his peers about his stammer, I certainly didn't want them to add the bedwetting to their amo. How cruel children can be We have ordered a Dri-sleeper alarm for him, so fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riane Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Hi My 9 year old daughter still has a bed wetting problem. we went to the GP and the clinic who gave her a chart to tick each time she had a drink. her target was 8 glasses of drink a day. This was to stretch her bladder and develop the muscles. I have to say it did work and she went 3 months with no wet nights. But we did not keep the drinking up and things started to slip back. At school she only gets a drink at lunchtime and by the end of term we seem to be back to square one. Its very frustrating and she was very worried at brownie camp that she was going to have an accident. Don't know if this is any help? Oh yes they also said no blackcurrant! good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGirlsMum Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Keep us posted on how the alarm goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Embarrasing to admit - but it might help. I had a major problem with bedwetting when I was small - into my early teens. I slept (and still sleep) very very heavily. I was sorted by the alarms. The sheet wasn't very comfortable to lie on, but it certainly did the trick for me. Now the funny bit. Some umpty years ago, when he was young, my son, who sleeps heavily like me, also had the problem. So we got him the sheet and alarm. About the second night he had it, I suddenly woke up, in the loo .... yes, all ready to go, but not wanting to! He had wet the bed, slept through it, but the alarm triggered off my conditioned reflex from all those years ago - and off I toddled to have a pee! Its hard to believe that the alarm sound travelled from his room (quite a way away from mine) and permeated into what passes for my brain while I was fast asleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 That is funny Richard I do hope the alarm works Carolinep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolinep Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 Thanks for that Richard The image really made me chuckle They are supposed to trigger something in the subconscious, so that the noise of the alarm is associated with a full bladder, hence you needing to go to the toilet Strange though how years on the sound of the alarm made you think you needed to go It's a strange contraption that Lukes gone to bed wearing this evening, the sensor is in a panty liner stuck inside a pair of pants, with the wire going up the inside of his pj top out of the neck hole and plugged into a small alarm unit which is stuck to the shoulder of his pj top with velcro We shall see what happens tonight. He has been told what to do in the event of the alarm going off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGirlsMum Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Fingers crossed for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UkButton Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I'm sure this won't help at all but my brother (older) still wets the bed... Only thing is he's 38, Mumbles something about too much vodka and sleeps somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolinep Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 I'm sure this won't help at all but my brother (older) still wets the bed... Only thing is he's 38, Mumbles something about too much vodka and sleeps somewhere else. That sounds like my late mother in law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
