Grandmashazzie Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 As you may know I got a beautiful black lab puppy in Feb. gorgeous George. I have been really unlucky in past, my previous two black labs had hip dysplasia. All the right questions were asked re hip screening and it seems George may also have hip dysplasia. He is off to vets for X Ray tomorrow but clinically has signs. The only positive is he is insured and the vet has said there is a major op that can be done before he is 10 months which has a good success rate. I am so sad for him he is just a baby.Has anyone experience of hip surgery in dogs this young? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Oh no, poor little George . That's very sad but thank goodness he can have an op (and that you're insured!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 What a shame It is worth getting him seen by an orthopaedic specialist if this is not already planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmashazzie Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 Thank you ANH and CM,awaiting X-ray results this pm and see who is best. I know my vet does not do such specialist surgery. I just hope there is someone here in N I with enough experience. It is at times like this when you realise what a small place this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loumabel Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hi, sorry to hear about poor George, not sure where you are in the UK but I went to Fitzpatricks in Surrey for my Labradors Hip replacement several years ago and they were first class. Great advice and very caring team of people. I lived in Kent at the time so not too far, I live in Dorset now and would still make the trip to them if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmashazzie Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 X Ray not good very shallow hip sockets so started on Metacam and Nutriquin,a supplement.Vets advice is now to get him pain free and our orthopaedic vet says recent advice is not to operate too early and that the hips can stabilise at 18 months although in the long term he will need hip replacement. My vet feels surgery now is not great result and prevents hip replacement in the future.Hopefully the big fella will settle. I am gutted I particularly sourced the breeder off Kennel Club site. I wish I had gone to gumtree and got black lab no papers,prob healthier.PS I am in Ireland best orthopaedic vet apparently in Cork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loumabel Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hydrotherapy is good too, helped keep my dog pain free and mobile until he was 10 and then had hip replacement. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat tails Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Oh no! Indeed poor George! I would notify the Kennel club. Hopefully the breeder will take appropriate measures. So sad that many of these great and lovely breeds are increasingly suffering from these painful problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I'm sorry to hear that Shazzie Lillybettybabs on here breeds gundogs, and know much more about this than i do - she hasn't been on the forum of late, but try PMing her to see if she picks it up. I hope this gets sorted for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmashazzie Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Thank you all. I contacted KC last time and they were most uninterested.When I google hip dysplasia it would appear the parents can have good hip score and you can still get a ' throwback '. I think if I ever get another black lab I will go to England methinks the gene pool is too small here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluekarin Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I think it is awful the KC aren't going to do anything about this! It's things like this very condition which is the reason we pay the extra money for KC reg dogs. For peace of mind. Well, that's why we went that route. My friend bred her working cocker spaniel a year or so ago and had a lovely litter of pups. Sadly, it seems both her "Ooops, word censored!" and the stud dog had a recessive gene which causes nerve damage. She had to take back a couple of pups due to this and sadly one had to be put down. She kept a pup too, which had to have a toe amputated. Due to this, both she and the stud dog owners have had their dogs neutered to end the line so this doesn't happen to someone else. I think the same thing should happen with this breeder you got your dog from. If there is shown to be more than your dog from the litters having this hip dysplasia, then they should end the line, or at least that breeding pair. Might be an idea to have a look around to see if other people have the same problem with their pups from the same breeding pair. You should be able to find details from the KC reg details of the parents. Anyway, I do hope George will be okay and that the vets will be able to help him. Fitzpatricks is the amazing vets on the C4 tv series isn't it? So if your local specialist can't help, then I am sure they can. Neil is a pet angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 What a shame My neighbour's dog is now nearly 14 and I clocked his classic Hip Dysplasia gait when he was very young. He was subsequently xrayed and has very bad Hip Dysplasia. He has however been kept slim and fit and is has taken medication only intermittently during flare ups thoughout his life so all is not lost Do not under any cirucmstances encourage ball chasing type exercise and avoid jumping and stairs if possible. I would do some research into your nearest Specialist. You will get vets who say they 'specialise' but you need to look for a Specialist (this is a title awarded by the RCVS, you can't just call yourself one), a Diploma holder or the very least a Certificate holder. This link may help you with your research http://www.any-uk-vet.co.uk/nireland.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmashazzie Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 Thank you CM.I will research thoroughly if he goes to surgery.It really is sad I bought him lots of throw toys and they are just lying in garden. He is on Metacam and has review on Mon at vets. I think it will need increased. He lets out a little cry now and again so I don't think dose is enough. He spends most of the day on my big sofa in the kitchen ( the one I was terrified the kids shoe buckles would scratch )He gets on it ok but needs his back end lifted off which I am sure is not a good sign at all. So so sad he is so handsome and so good natured, I must get a pic up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 If he is that bad I would get him referred ASAP. It doesn't need to be for surgery, it can be for assessment, advise of pain relief and prognosis. Huge leaps have been made in veterinary medicine and a vet taking referrals will be much more up to date with options available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickcluck Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Try hydro therapy, it will really help with the pain and help his muscle strength to protect his hips... Poor little love... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmashazzie Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 He was at the vet on Monday and she felt his hips had more movement. She has suggested stopping Metacam in 2 weeks and continuing on supplement. She felt the moaning was unrelated to pain. In her experience dogs don't moan with pain. She said dogs after accidents or with abdominal issues tend to be quiet and suggested it may be attention seeking. Given when he moans I rush over and pet him and fuss she may be right.She was also very positive that he may stabilise out.Long walks and ball play are out but 20 mins 3 times a day to build up muscle mass. We did the hydrotherapy with our last boy after his cruciate repair.The vet that has that is a good drive and I hate putting them in and out of the car when I know their hips are bad. I treated him to an orthopaedic memory foam mattress, does he like it,does he heck Fingers crossed he settles for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...