Warm boot recommendations please

[craftyhunnypie]

I enjoy newsletters from BHWT & would like to do more to support them. I also enjoy the silent auctions that are on here & wish there were more of those.

Not sure a separate section would be good here, as we can all talk about ex batts in the chicken section anyway.

 

Emma.x

[Guest]

Poet, you are rightly passionate about this subject, which is great to see.

 

Have you ever considered setting up your own forum on Battery hen rehoming?

I am sure you could do a splendid job of running & maintaining such a forum & I for one would be really interested to see how it panned out

 

I am sure there will be plenty of people here who could offer advice on how this could be done & I am also sure that a fair few of us would join

 

it wasn't my suggestion/idea, there were several people who wanted it, I just added my voice to theirs, fruitlessly as it seems but there we go.

 

Wonder if the crafters had this problem getting their forum set up

[Egluntyne]

You are pushing your luck Poet.

[Guest]

You are pushing your luck Poet.

 

what exactly does that mean?

[Egluntyne]

Exactly what it says. You are going too far. Why not wait until the poll has run its course and abide by the decision...whichever way it goes instead of making snide and offensive comments.

 

You have made your point. Now wait and see if others agree with you. If they do...you'll no doubt get your section. If they don't...you won't. Accept it with good grace.

 

This is all getting ever so tiresome.

[Guest]

Exactly what it says. You are going too far. Why not wait until the poll has run its course and abide by the decision...whichever way it goes instead of making snide and offensive comments.

 

You have made your point. Now wait and see if others agree with you. If they do...you'll no doubt get your section. If they don't...you won't. Accept it with good grace.

 

This is all getting ever so tiresome.

 

i'm guessing you're a crafter

 

no offense was meant

[Egluntyne]

No. I am not a crafter, but offence has been taken in many quarters.

[Guest]

No. I am not a crafter, but offence has been taken in many quarters.

 

why, what did I do, say?

[Mrs Frugal]

I just added my voice to theirs, fruitlessly as it seems but there we go.

 

Wonder if the crafters had this problem getting their forum set up

 

No decision has been made so far so "fruitless" is hardly necessary, is it? I will not be bullied into setting up a forum unless it is likely to be used by a good number of members otherwise it is a pointless exercise considering there is already a chickens section. I will also not consider removing or merging any other sections.

 

The crafters didn't have a problem getting the section set up. Martin was the one who suggested it and considering we have so many crafters, it seemed an obvious thing to do.

[Egluntyne]

Maybe if you re read the entire thread you will realise that your style is too aggressive and even though you have been given fair minded replys, you don't accept them and keep coming back to the same old thing.

 

We all realise that you feel passionately about the subject and that is admirable, we all do, many of us support the BHWT in different ways,but you don't catch flies with vinegar, and maybe if you tried a less confrontational approach, you would get a wider audience, and more support.

 

Why not take Cinnamons excellent advice and start your own forum. You obviously have time on your hands. It is a fun thing to do and I'm sure you would attract a following. You can set your own style on your own forum There is plenty of free software to download...and you've got your moderators already from the sound of it. Go for it.

[Guest]

okay, I apologise if the word "fruitlessly" caused offence. All I meant was our suggestion was turned down flat initially, we carried on the discussion and eventually got a poll but it seems the poll is going against us, that's all I meant by "fruitlessly".

 

I don't preceive that anybody is bullying anybody else, although, and this will probably raise a few hackels, some of the mod posts (and I stress SOME) do come across as autocratic on occassion.

 

along the lines of, "That's our decision and that's that..." kind of thing.

 

Anyway, I meant no offence, I'm just used to debating/discussing in an open and honest environment.

 

Apologies again for any offence caused, it wasn't intended. I have a passionate, artistic type temprament which perhaps comes across in the wrong way sometimes.

[Guest]

. You obviously have time on your hands. It is a fun thing to do and I'm sure you would attract a following. You can set your own style on your own forum There is plenty of free software to download...and you've got your moderators already from the sound of it. Go for it.

 

if I didn't know better I'd think you were trying to get rid of me

[Mrs Frugal]

I don't preceive that anybody is bullying anybody else

 

Well I feel bullied. I have set up a poll to decide what is done but you are still trying to force me into something which, looking at the poll, isn't really wanted by the majority of the forum.

 

although, and this will probably raise a few hackels, some of the mod posts (and I stress SOME) do come across as autocratic on occassion.

 

along the lines of, "That's our decision and that's that..." kind of thing.

 

Please do not criticise the moderators on this forum. They are here to keep the forum running smoothly and in a family orientated way and they all do a superb job. I think you'll find the majority of forum members here will agree with that and are happy to use a safe, friendly forum where they will not be offended by anything which is posted.

[Guest]

I don't preceive that anybody is bullying anybody else

 

Well I feel bullied. I have set up a poll to decide what is done but you are still trying to force me into something which, looking at the poll, isn't really wanted by the majority of the forum.

 

 

 

although, and this will probably raise a few hackels, some of the mod posts (and I stress SOME) do come across as autocratic on occassion.

 

along the lines of, "That's our decision and that's that..." kind of thing.

 

Please do not criticise the moderators on this forum. They are here to keep the forum running smoothly and in a family orientated way and they all do a superb job. I think you'll find the majority of forum members here will agree with that and are happy to use a safe, friendly forum where they will not be offended by anything which is posted.

 

Yes, the mods do a wonderful job as I've said time and again (see my previous posts) but the topic of bullying was raised (not by me I hasten to add) and I felt a little intimidated by the autocratic nature of some of the posts in this thread and I myself felt a little bullied also so I had my right to reply on the subject, that's all.

 

I do hope, now that we've aired our feelings, we can draw a line under this. I'm not out to bully you Kate and that's rather an upsetting thing to be accused of, even indirectly.

 

Also, I am not trying to force you into anything.

[Mrs Frugal]

Could you please stop suggesting that we drop forums to make room for a BHWT section then.

[Guest]

Could you please stop suggesting that we drop forums to make room for a BHWT section then.

 

I only suggested that you consider removing the crafty fingers forum because it seemed to be quite a quiet forum, once you'd explained it had only been going for a couple of months I understood then why it only had a limited number of posts.

 

I won't ask you to remove it again, it was only a suggestion I made once.

 

I'm off to see my girls now, get a bit of chicken therapy, I think I need it after all this!

 

take care and have a lovely day!

[Tina C]

Gosh - have just entered this thread and I don't know which way to vote!

 

As a neutral outsider I can see that it is clear that Poet, from this and other postings, feels very strongly about the welfare of battery hens - as many of us do - and she does not mean to offend or upset anyone but at the same time it must be remembered that this is, on the whole, 'preaching to the converted' on this forum.

 

For that reason I think that a separate site might be appropriate as it might convert others and could take more of a campaigning stance.

 

I think Lesley's good life post (and, dare I say it, the footie thread - and even the no shampoo thread too) is a good example of a thread that just refuses to disappear and that can be done with a battery hen thread too - gives an opportunity for everyone to discuss their experiences and will keep the issue under everyone's noses. Why don't we see how this goes and then decide later about a separate section?

 

On a general note I personally don't feel another section would be to much - there are already some sections I never go into and others I visit only when I have time.

 

See, I am on everyone's side - and I still don't know which way to vote!

[Guest]

As a neutral outsider I can see that it is clear that Poet, from this and other postings, feels very strongly about the welfare of battery hens - as many of us do - and she does not mean to offend or upset anyone ....

 

thank you, that means a lot.

 

 

**edit** can I just add, as stated in my previous postings on this thread, I wanted a seperate battery hen thread/forum whatever, to swap stories, get advice about welfare etc, talk to other ex-batt owners and read about their experiences etc not to campaign about the issue of battery farming.

 

That's not to say Tina's idea of a seperate forum taking a campaigning stance isn't a good idea but that wasn't what I (or Martin) were asking for.

[The Dogmother]

Personally, I don't feel that there is a need for a seperate forum section for BHWT/battery hens. While lots of Omleteers wholeheartedly support the BHWT and re-home ex-battery girls, they are happy for their posts on the subject to be part of the general forum discussion.

 

Given the number of adoptees on the forum, the fact that they haven't felt the need to ask for a seperate section, and the results of the poll, I think we've given it a good chance and there just hasn't been the take-up.

 

I am sure that the subject will come up again int he future, and will be put to the vote again... let's wait and see if it's needed then.

[Martin B]

Would it work if everyone who was posting about BHWT was encouraged to put "BHWT" in the title of their post or in subsequent replies? This might make it easier for those particularly interested in the subject to search for relevant topics (although I know that you have to be very specific in your search or you gets loads of extra results). Admittedly posts can go off topic easily so it might not be that easy.

 

Just a thought .

 

Good Idea.

[Martin B]

Why can't individual rescue hen stories be treated in the same way in the chicken section?

 

Or why not a seperate BHWT section?

[Mrs Frugal]

Martin!! We're already running a poll on that .

[Martin B]

Considering that it's well used by rather a lot of members, I think the suggestion to have it was a good one. I can't see a single section which isn't used which could go to make way for another section. I don't think that is something we'd consider.

 

 

 

And if hadn't been for me we wouldn't have had that forum and I don't think it should be deleted as I enjoy it.

[Mrs Frugal]

Thank you, Martin. I wholeheartedly agree.

[Martin B]

. You obviously have time on your hands. It is a fun thing to do and I'm sure you would attract a following. You can set your own style on your own forum There is plenty of free software to download...and you've got your moderators already from the sound of it. Go for it.

 

if I didn't know better I'd think you were trying to get rid of me

 

Ditto