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[Snowy]

Sorry if this has been asked before, I have done a search and some reading but can't quite find out what I want to know. With the current situation with energy prices I am seriously considering a woodburner, but don't know if our house would be suitable. We don't have any fireplace, just a plain wall. At the moment there is a wooden fire surround and a gas fire on a tiled plinth. Could I still have a woodburner? Would I need a canopy? And I presume I'd need a flue, but I always thought I would need a fireplace. Anyone got any hints or tips please!

[The Dogmother]

You don't need a fireplace, but you will need an external flue - one that goes out through the external wall and up the outside. There are some very good websites, full of advice and information, just have abrowse.

 

The flue will mean extra cost.

[Guest]

Mums part of the house is single storey.

 

In her living room she has a lovely woodburner and no fireplace. I metal flue goes up and through the ceiling.

 

If you want I could get a picture for you tomorrow. It warms better than my enclosed one.

[The Dogmother]

I forgot to mention to get a multi-fuel stove so that you can burn wood as well as coal. I just use a few stove nuggets to kepe the fire in and then use free wood to brun. A joiner friend gives me free offcuts and I scrounge wood from skips or by the roadside. You'll soon become a wood-wombler.

[Cooks]

We have a multi fuel one also, but tend to just burn wood to be honest, hubby being a carpenter has plenty of off cuts, but they are only really good for kindling, we tend to burn logs/hard wood as this last longer.

[Yorkshire Pudding]

We installed a Firebelly stove in our previous house - we had to do quite a lot of work to put it in, total cost about £1400, but gas bills dropped dramatically. When we sold the house, the woodburner was the feature that sold it within a week. It's the only thing I miss about the place! we used a company called Plasterline UK, based in Denby Dale. I think they may go as far south as Leicestershire and they were excellent, very professional and left no mess at all despite knocking out a fireplace, lining a flue, plastering and installing a hearth and stove.

 

This house has no chimney or fireplace, but I wouldn't buy it until I was sure we could install another woodburner and I was assured that going throught the wall was a straightforward option, if dearer than having an existing chimney - now all I have to do is save up the cash!

 

I recommend wood-wombling - we got a good third of our fuel for nothing by collecting and scrounging bits. Neighbours felling garden trees gave us the wood - we seasoned it and burned it, they didn't have to tip it.

[The Dogmother]

That's the joy of having my van - I can stop and sling it in the back

 

I'll let you borrow my chainsaw Snowy

[Snowy]

Thanks, that was the kind of feedback I wanted I've had a browse of some of the web sites already but you can't beat personal stories! The idea is becoming very appealing, given the cost of our gas supply

[BERTIE MCSQUIRTY]

snowy

 

we have a multi fuel burner that we bought online from stovesrus, since then our bills are about 10% of our previous heating bills. ours goes through a chimney though but i have seen them go through the wall which looks fab in my view.

 

the important part of getting one is getting the right stove - making sure that the heat output is adequate for your home -we have cleanburn one too which is kinder to the environment. your welcome to view mine if you wish, my hubby just loves it in action and would gladly show you how easy it is- it is the best thing we have ever bought.

 

i was given a recommendation of a fitter who lives in your village who i believe was very reasonable, but we had our builder do it whilst he was doing other work. i can get you his tel no if you wish.

[Snowy]

Oooh, that sounds great Bertie, I may just take you up on that. Need to get all my facts right first, then convince OH (I haven't told him yet - he gets worried when I start having ideas )

[sparkleeeeee]

it will save you a fortune. we rarely have our heating on. we have spent 2 years with a 12kw woodburning stove in the living room heating our big old house (just shut the doors to rooms that you dont use) it even kept us warm when we had six months in the winter without any windows in the back upstairs, just black sacks. we didnt have any radiators plumbed in for most of that time so we didnt have a choice. it did get rather hot in the living room as it was really too powerful for the room.

our gas bill is about £9 a quarter, which is mainly the hob on the cooker.

when we built a new room on the back of the house last winter, we added a 5kw stovax woodburner and its fantastic.

when we convert the windmill this year we will be having a huge woodburner in the extension facing out into two rooms. we hope it will heat the main part of the house so we will not have the heating on there either.

 

we use the s"Ooops, word censored!" wood from OHs business and give loads away to people as well, our s"Ooops, word censored!" heats three or four homes through the winter.

 

when we started looking for our newest logburner, i did a lot of research, some of the cheaper ones are not as efficient and dont last as long. this is a great time to buy one as alot of shops are having sales. people tend to buy them at the end of the summer and shops are feeling the pinch at the moment. you could get a great deal. we got a good discount off ours last winter. you coud go around the local stove shops and decide what you want and buy it online alot cheaper.

 

 

go for it snowy you will certainly not regret it, they are worth the money.

[Lesley]

We had ours installed in January. I spent ages reading all that I could find.

 

There was a lot of info. on the It's Not Easy Being Green forum.

 

Ours is fitted into an existing fireplace and chimney but the manufacturer has plenty in their brochure which show them fitted to an exterior wall.

[Snowy]

We had ours installed in January. I spent ages reading all that I could find.

 

There was a lot of info. on the It's Not Easy Being Green forum.

 

Ours is fitted into an existing fireplace and chimney but the manufacturer has plenty in their brochure which show them fitted to an exterior wall.

 

I was just reading your post about it Lesley! I saw that model on the website - what kw is it? (your lounge/diner looks about the same size as my lounge) I worked out I'd need a 5kw one, but that seems small for what is quite a big room (21' x 13')

[Lesley]

I think it is rated 2kw-8kw Snowy. It will heat most of the house if we open the doors.

 

We really wanted to Buy British but unfortunately we haven't kept up with the Scandinavians We needed one that was a large fire - not the firebox but the fire itself.........as a piece of 'furniture' if that makes sense?

 

Do you have a local shop you could visit and have a chat? - that's what we did..... and then a lot of jargon from the websites began to make sense!

[Snowy]

Thanks Lesley. Yes, I think a visit to a shop is in order eventually. It does look doable though, which is a good start!

[ali-s]

We are thinking of putting in a multi fuel stove in our cottage if I can bear to rip out one of the lovely old fireplaces

 

We have 20 plus trees which we would like to get rid of and this wood would be used after it has seasoned. I would also go looking for wood on the nearby beaches

 

Take a look on the wood energy part of the Its not easy being green forum. There is lots of info on there including a great list of different types of wood and how well they burn, and a sticky about installing a wood burner if you do not have a fireplace.

 

It is scary how energy prices are rising

[Cinnamon]

We have one in our sitting room,which has an external flue.

There are some photos in my gallery,I think. Hubby built a sort of mock fireplace using vintage bricks & a big hunk of oak he found at a reclaim yard.

 

We are delighted with it (we get free wood as hubby replaces windows), & are thinking about getting one which will heat the boiler too as fuel prices are so at the moment

[The Dogmother]

Mine is a Villager Chelsea Snowy and I got it from The Heat Store in Studley. I looked around and played with one locally, but the best price was from them in the end. I had mine fitted by my chimney sweep, who is a bit of a stove expert - he surveyed my chimney to see if it needed a liner and checked it all out first. He now comes to sweep the chimney and check the stove once a year.

 

Broken down pallets burn really well and chopping wood is great exercise.

[..lay a little egg for me]

We have used a wood-burner for yonks! Like Sparkleeee, we hardly ever have the heating on. In fact the winter before last we did not put it on once (we were cold a couple of times in Feb but we decided to see if we could go a whole winter without using the heating so we grinned and bore it)

 

We have an 8kW stove for a room of a similar size. I find that if we light the stove fairly early in the evening or even the afternoon, then once the room is warm we can turn down the stove quite low and it keeps everything toasty. However, sometimes we have some logs that do not want to burn (oak is particularly bad) and we have to keep it going flat out all the time to keep the room warm. They say it is best to have it running pretty hot because that way you get less soot up the chimney/flue. You don't need a canopy. They say that you get more heat if you do have one, but I don't like the look of them, personally. Plus, with a flat topped stove you can also use it for cooking/keeping your coffee pot warm . I once cooked a casserole on the top of the stove! If the flue goes up inside your room to the ceiling you get more heat than if you route the flue straight out through the wall and up the outside of the house, but of course it might not suit your room/taste to do that.

 

I would recommend the cast-iron stoves with the cold air wash that keeps the window clear (maybe they all do this nowadays, not sure). The non-cast iron ones seem flimsy to me. Ours is a Franco-Belge make and we have been very happy with it. In our previous house we had a Duffel, which was also great. Also consider the size of logs that it takes. If it only takes very small logs you will have to do a lot more wood chopping than if it can take longer lengths!!

[Snowy]

Thanks - I was thinking about the flue, and the effect of it running up inside the house rather than straight outside. So it could go to the outside just underneath the ceiling ...or... I wonder if it would be feasible to run it through the floor and up our bedroom wall as well? Or would that make the bedroom too hot (I don't normally have any heating on in the bedroom, ever)

 

Good idea about it being big enough to take bigger logs!

[Cinnamon]

Snowy,I don't know if its relevant to your situation or not,but ours has an outside flue & is in the living room which has our bedroom above it.

It still warms the bedroom really wekk through the floor - we hardly ever have to have the heating on in there

[The Dogmother]

My chimney breast runs up through my bedroom, so that room gets lovely and warm too. I only have it going in the evenings during the week as i am at work during the day, but it saves me heaps in gas for the heating.

[chickencam]

We had a Stovax Stockton 5 fitted last July. Best money we have ever spent. It has cleanburn and airwash. The cats love it

 

We had a huge ugly minster style stone fireplace with a big wooden mantlepiece. We had the fireplace removed and the opening made bigger and squared off, All we have is an opening in the wall with the flue going straight up the chimney.

 

Our house is 22 years old and we worried if it would be in keeping but it looks so much more modern than what was there before.

 

It is a 5kw stove and the room is 12 X 18 approx. It kept us so warm last winter. Hubby even lit it last night because he was a bit chilly

 

We get a lot of wood from a property developer friend of ours, offcuts from roof joists and partition walling, which they would otherwise burn on site

[Blackrocksrock]

We are delighted with it (we get free wood as hubby replaces windows), & are thinking about getting one which will heat the boiler too as fuel prices are so at the moment

 

My Multi fuel boiler does all the heating and hot water for a 4 bedroomed bungalow and keeps the fuel costs way down as I have free wood from hubby - arboriculturist and only have my electric bill to pay which is nominal really. Its getting old so need to source a new one and that is difficult. Mine is a windhager but 18 years old now

[Ange1]

Snowy,

 

My parents have a 'clearview stove', they liked it so much they ordered another one and now have two!

 

http://www.clearviewstoves.com/pioneeroven.htm

 

This one is specially dersigned for a free standing situation, you can even cook casserroles in it!

 

 

They do everything, multifuel, will heat the whole house and/or hot water if you want it to or just burn wood on it!

 

Clearview is what it says and it never gets dirty, self cleaning glass with a hot air washing system, but have a look at their site wonderfull things!