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[ajm200]

I took my little one to play group earlier and the messy play was cake decorating with tubes of very brightly coloured icing. We never have ready made food in the house so it was a bit of a treat for him..

 

At snack time, I let him eat his brightly coloured creation and boy did I regret it... within about 10 minutes my normally well-behaved, placid child became the worst little terror in the place, running around shouting, throwing things, refusing to listen and throwing tantrums..

 

I've read the reports on additives but I was to see the proof in my own child... Why won't the food industry remove these substances from children's food

 

He's still hyper an hour later despite walking nearly half a mile home. I hope it wears off soon as he's finding everything so frustrating..

 

I feel sorry for any parents who have to put up with this everyday from children with ADHD or similar

Edited June 26, 2008 by Guest

[Jules.]

Gosh

[Ain't Nobody Here]

That's a bit scary . Imagine all those kiddies who eat stuff like that every day .

 

At least you've learnt early on what to avoid .

[Mrs Webmuppet]

I have the same problem with Little Miss Webmuppet. I never use food colouring and try to get any nasty sweets off her before she eats them.........I have told her teachers and Out of School club not to let her have any Haribo style sweets ( for some reason kids take sweets into school for birthdays) but it never works and she usually manages to consume them before I can confiscate them

 

Today is Little Miss Webmuppets eight birthday so she has gone to school with a mountain of assorted homemade fairy cakes and muffins to share (eggs, of course, courtesy of the chooks).

[ajm200]

Happy birthday to Little Miss Webmuppet.

[Tiggy]

I see these kids at work every day, they turn into little monsters, some of my moms are struggling to cope, often say that the kids refuse to eat anything else, they live on fizzy pop sweets & pre packed food and throw a tantrum if they do not get it. it must be very difficult, the trick seems to be not getting the little ones hooked on this junk in the first place

[Mrs Webmuppet]

It is a nightmare. I try to stear away from pre-packed foods which isn't that easy ( I work full time shifts ) but I always check stuff before I buy it for suspect ingredients. I never put fizzy pop, crisps, biscuits or any cake that isn't home made in her packed lunch. One of the dinner supervisors actually told me that LMW's packed lunches were pretty good.

 

Some of the parents are just too lazy when the children are small to feed them anything other than 'kiddie junk food'

[Snowy]

I've always had a running battle with my OH about sweets and pop as treats or everyday things. I think he always felt they were deprived if they didn't have a packet of sweets and plenty of pop to drink everyday! When I've tried to talk to him about it, it's 'nagging' But sadly Daniel needed fillings in his baby teeth at our last trip to the dentist and the dentist firmly placed the blame on the sweets and pop. So now he listens!!

 

But it has made a great difference - we'd got to the stage where they just screamed for sweets if Dad was around Now, they never ask for them, or mention them, even though they are not completely outlawed. And the pop/cordial has gone. It's water, milk or a limited amount of fresh orange juice each day. Amazingly they don't miss that either! I am winning!

[chickencam]

I have the same problem with my OH, he eats biscuits, ice creams etc and drinks fizzy stuff and he indulges the kids too

 

Ice cream is the one that gets me, I will quite happily let them have some with some fruit as a pudding but he gets seduced by supermarket offers at this time of year therefore we have a freezer full of mini magnums full sized magnums and various other big sugery ices They would like them every day and I won't let them and OH thinks I'm mean but DS's waitline has been all the better for less of such things over the past few months.

 

I won't take away treats altogether because that is what my parents did to me so i spent all my pocket money on sweets and crisps instead when i was at school.

[The Dogmother]

Rosie is the same (so am I) she's always acted up after eating additives/excess sugar/colouring/pop, so I avoid letting her have any and she knows the consequences if she does have sweeties. Cola drinks are the worst!

 

Good for all of you keeping them off the junk.

[Mrs Webmuppet]

I can't have cola drinks (or caffeinated drinks of any kind) .................I get hyper on them ........not a pretty sight in a middle aged lady

 

Little Miss Webmuppet spends some of her pocket money on sweets but its mostly chocolate.........the dentist told her that chocolate was slightly better than sweets 'cause it doesn't get stuck in your teeth. The lady who runs the cafe at the sailing club (where the pocket money is usually spent) knows the rule about sweets and steers LMW away from the sweets and towards the chocolate.

[ajm200]

We used to be terrible for eating junk and takeaways when we both worked full time and quite often I would still be awake at 4am even though I had to be at work 3 hours later. My OH and I were also very overweight and unfit

 

We've drastically changed our lifestyle and diet. 2yrs on my OH as a flat tummy for the first time in 20 years, I can't tell as i have a massive baby bump.

 

It seems you can get too much of a good thing though The dentist has told us to cut back on fruit and tomatoes as the acid from the was damaging our teeth

 

I've got to change the fridge freezer for a full size fridge so that we can accomodate all the fruit and veg we use as my toddler keeps doing sneak raids on the fruit bowl and eats more fruit than his tummy likes..

[ajm200]

It's good when people co-operate and help you to keep your daughter off the sweets that are bad for her. I find grandparents are the worst for breaking the rules and supplying junk

[Egluntyne]

Blue Smarties and Coca Cola used to have my youngest child climbing up the walls.

 

Later he would crash out and be ashen faced and exhausted.

 

He only had them at other people's parties.....until I made the connection and put a stop to it.

[The Dogmother]

Sounds like my little angel Egluntine.

 

She used to come home with her party bag and hand it over to me - she had one sweetie and then said 'put them away mummy, they make me naughty and sick'

 

Phil never believed me until we went to a party once and she'd been drinking coke with the other littlies - she threw a major tantrum and he had to carry her out!!!

[ajm200]

My son eventually crashed out, napped for nearly 3 hours and is now really grumpy and whining, so I guess he's going through what you describe

[Lailapet]

Wow! It's one of these things that we all instinctively know, but for those kids that have these things all the time I suppose we think their behaiour is their personality... It's so sad!

I am definitely no angel, we sometimes have a chocolate biscuit or two as pudding and if there's any sweets in the house we eat them!!! But when I moved back to Denmark I noticed that all children here talked about Friday sweets. It appears that there is an hour of Disney Cartoons on at 7pm every Friday and it has become a tradition that all children in Denmark sit down and watch this with treats - I cottoned on to tjis and now they ONLY have treats on Fridays. Ideally, I make popcorn and also a few sticks of carrot etc, but I often succomb to the Haribo sweets or a bag of something or a lollipop or Kinder eggs or whatever else. Admittedly we don't have cola or other soda drinks and one Supermarket (Danish Coop) announced yesterday that they have withdrawn all yellow and green lemonade from their shelves because of the hyperactivity links with the dyes. It's a great start, but of course you can just go somewhere else to buy them

I hope your little one recovered and became his usual pleasant self!

Laila

[hils78]

In my house people are still talking about the pink icing episode with my daughter and this was 2 years ago. I made fairy cakes with DD & I made lemon icing (lemon juice that is) but a friend who was here said thats mean let her have pink icing. Well for the next half hour after 2 tiny pink fairy cakes DD (then 3) raced up & down the house - but suddenly stopped & promptly vomited in my friends hat haha!!! never underestimate the power of food colouring!

[Clur]

This topic drives me mad - there was a big push many years ago when a book was published called 'E for Additives'. I was only a littlie at the time and my parents suddenly realised why I had been hyperactive for so long. Following bad publicity, many food and drink manufacturers removed tartrazine - E104, one of the worst culprits.

 

When I had my son, I realised it had been reintroduced to a large extent. I made a conscious effort not to give my kids food with this (and the other culprits E102, E104, E110) but unfortunately there are times when it's unavoidable - some prescribed medicines have them in their ingredients.

 

It's linked to all sorts of nasty things other than just hyperactivity - links to asthma, excema all sorts and I wish they'd ban it here too. If my son has colourings, or goes near coke, he gets a rash and his behavious turns attrocious

[The Dogmother]

MSG makes my lips tingle and my chest tight. So does the red die that they use in indian restaurants.

[Ana's flock]

I've always had a running battle with my OH about sweets and pop as treats or everyday things. I think he always felt they were deprived if they didn't have a packet of sweets and plenty of pop to drink everyday! When I've tried to talk to him about it, it's 'nagging' But sadly Daniel needed fillings in his baby teeth at our last trip to the dentist and the dentist firmly placed the blame on the sweets and pop. So now he listens!!

 

Yup, I've had a carbon copy experience with OH and the boys... But he still won't listen. A treat now and then won't hurt (he says). OK tonight it's boys' night, the three of you to the spare room (I say, while getting a book and locking main bedroom )

 

The boys love it - I love it - OH thinks about it twice before producing the next 'lovely daddy's trick'.

 

...for some reason lately he's been buying them trifles, cream cakes, crumpets, yoghurts... ...and nice organic black chocolate for mummy!

[Couperwife]

I once read a report that said that ADHD didnt really exist, it was just a reaction to additives in food.

 

not sure what i think about this. as some people have children who really are ADHD without the bad diet.

 

cathy

x

[Seagazer]

My DD when she was younger reacted very strongly to brightly coloured food and unfortunately that even included carrots!

 

We had to be very strict with her. She is now nearly 21 and at uni. She sometimes rings me and she goes on and on and on jabbering away and you can't get a word in edgeways. I always say 'been on the tea or cola again?'. She gets all twitchy and takes for ever to calm down.

 

I know she gets it from me though as I can't drink tea after 2 pm as I won't get to sleep at night. And I can forget about having a lovely coffee after a dinner out - I had an espresso once after a meal out and I spent the whole night awake and jittery

 

Its not fun!

[LisaP]

The third of our 4 children has ASD which also includes dyspraxia, dyslexia and query ADHD. When he was diagnosed at 2 1/2 we were told he was severely autistic and would never read, write or be able to communicate properly and would need special care

 

Anyway when he was 4 I found out about a special diet and decided to give it a go, after all we had nothing to lose and to say we ended up with a 'new' boy is a bit of an understatement - more that we had found the key to unlock the boy we knew was in there Don't get me wrong he is certainly still autistic and life is certainly interesting with him BUT he now attends mainstream school (with a helper currently) and he will be going up to secondary school in September

 

The list of foods and other products that he has to avoid is incredible but its so worth it, as even now we can see a big difference if he manages to get something he shouldn't Basically I understand what others have said on this thread about their children having these cravings because that is exactly what it is - a major craving and the author of the original book I followed refers to the problem as being akin to drug addiction. The children actually get a fix which then needs topping up

 

If anyone wants to contact me about the diet etc please feel free - apart from anything else I have lots of gluten free etc recipes

 

It really is truly amazing how some of the 'nasties' are hidden away in our food and products and labelling in this country is very poor - a major factor in our decision to get chickens was having our own organic eggs

 

Sorry to have rambled but its something very dear to my heart

 

Lisa P

[hils78]

Not rambling at all LisaP! I find it all very interesting. Recently I met for the first time my OH's cousins son (!) and he is ADHD but has a confrontational/agressive eliment to it (sorry can't remember what its is actually called). This boys mum is now helping write a new government paper on ADHD which should lead to more help & understanding with the matter. They were telling me that with ADHD there is a part of a brain 'connection' that doesn't work but by the teens this connection should have sorted its self out. Unfortunately the usual course of events is that these children get labelled & by the time their brain has got its self fixed a behaviour pattern is established & alot of people just give up on them. (I'm not talking about anyone here btw! I'm just saying about un-diagnosed & un-treated/managed children!). Apparantly there is a drug which can bridge the connection which causes the ADHD behaviour but its really hard to get prescribed. This is what is going to be in the paper going to the government in the very near future....takes a deep breath!