Lesley Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 ....of the human kind, is dangerous for dogs?? Is it OK as a one-off? I left Jazz with Lauren and Jake in the lounge watching a DVD while I moved some shelves with my son. The film finished and L&J came upstairs leaving Jazz behind. I suddenly realised and hobbled downstairs as fast as I could to a scene of devastation - two newspapers - all my printouts for a trip to London - and half a 100g bar of expensive praline chocolate(that had been hiding behind the cushion ) Should I worry? or should Jazz be worried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiblick Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 as a once off it should be okay and as far as I know the darker the chocolate the worse it is. It also depends on the size of the dog. Larger dogs cope better. I would hope you have nothing to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Just keep an eye on her Lesley - I hope it's nothing more than a dodgy tum. It's the theobromine in chocolate that's toxic for them Just found some facts for you... It turns out that, for dogs, a chemical in chocolate called theobromine is the source of the problem. Theobromine is similar to caffeine. According to this page, theobromine is toxic to a dog when it ingests between 100 and 150 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. Different types of chocolate contain different amounts of theobromine: It would take 20 ounces of milk chocolate to kill a 20-pound dog, but only 2 ounces of baker's chocolate or 6 ounces of semisweet chocolate. It is not that hard for a dog to get into something like an Easter basket full of chocolate eggs and bunnies and gobble up a pound or two of chocolate. If the dog is small, that could be deadly. It turns out that chocolate poisoning is actually not as unusual as it sounds. For a human being, caffeine is toxic at levels of 150 milligrams per kilogram of body weight (see this page). That's the same as for dogs! Humans generally weigh a lot more than dogs, but small children can get into trouble with caffeine or chocolate if they consume too much of it. Infants are especially vulnerable because they don't eliminate caffeine from the bloodstream nearly as quickly as adults. Are you sure she isn't a lurcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm sure there was a dog in the news recently that ate the family's whole stash of Easter eggs, paper and all . As far as I remember he/she was OK (but presumably was very sick!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 I won't tell you what I called her - but it wasn't lurcher Apparently, she was sick when she went out with Carl so hopefully, that will be it. It was milk chocolate so that's a bit less worrying. She's been her usual exuberant self all evening, chasing around after her ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 My last lurcher (thieves the lot of them!) ate a whole box of champagne truffles (gift for a friend) then sicked them up all over the place Encourage her to drink if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Bracken ate a whole box of celebrations when we were out one Christmas she sat on my white fluffy rug and individually opened each wrapper with her paws! no ill effects.....not even tummy trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutmeg Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 My lurcher once ate a Lindt Reindeer. The vet wanted to know the weight of the chocolate and the quantity of cocoa and assured us that she should be fine. He was impressed that she had unwrapped it and not eaten the little gold bell and red ribbon. Hope Jazz is OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 - clever dog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Bracken ate a whole box of celebrations when we were out one Christmas she sat on my white fluffy rug and individually opened each wrapper with her paws! Move over Gin, Britains Got Talent here Bracken comes!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Jess & Poppy between them ate a packet of Lakeland Easter chocolates (like the Advent calendar ones) wrappers and all last Friday....Pops spent the evening looking very sad & sorry for herself....and I got up Saturday morning to discover the blue carpet in the extension was rather browner than it should be with lots of glittery foil bits in I think she'd tried many times to find a clean bit to on! Bless her was not what I said as I got the carpet cleaner out, when I should have been getting dressed to go to DS's parent-teacher consultations. She was much happier on Saturday morning and Jess didn't show any ill effects at all - I know she would have stolen them to start with, so I have no doubt she would have eaten at least some of the spoils ! My baby, Daisy, was innocent as the driven snow...she was locked in her cage !!! It sounds like Jazz has come off ok, if you have this again, I would give her some charcoal tablets to soak up some of the toxin. I'm not sure if it actually works, but it certainly wouldn't hurt. Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 I think she has cast iron guts.......she's been absolutely fine. .....and I won't hide chocolate behind the cushion again - I'd only hidden it from the grandchildren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 My lurcher once ate a Lindt Reindeer. The vet wanted to know the weight of the chocolate and the quantity of cocoa and assured us that she should be fine. He was impressed that she had unwrapped it and not eaten the little gold bell and red ribbon. Hope Jazz is OK. That's a first - a lurcher who doesn't eat everything! Ruby stole some bananas yesterday and ate them... skin and all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Our dogs have polished selection boxes off at Christmas! They have always been ok but sick for a few hours afterwards. Not the nicest thing to clean up on Christmas morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 My aunites welsh terrier recently ate a lot of those yummy guylian chocolates. They took her to the vets as she wasn't right so they gave her charcoal to make her sick and she recovered well. However just last week she ate a few jaffa cakes(i've been told not very many), antway she then had to go to the vets and she got quite poorly. She was on a drip and not well at all. From what i understand the jaffa cakes had something to do with her getting an infection which is what made her poorley, rather than just the jaffa cakes. I would just observe her more than normal and see if her behaviour changes. Emma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutmeg Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 My lurcher once ate a Lindt Reindeer. The vet wanted to know the weight of the chocolate and the quantity of cocoa and assured us that she should be fine. He was impressed that she had unwrapped it and not eaten the little gold bell and red ribbon. Hope Jazz is OK. That's a first - a lurcher who doesn't eat everything! Ruby stole some bananas yesterday and ate them... skin and all! She can be quite selective indoors; its when we are out walking that she finds something disgusting to eat; usually just as someone is walking past and we get the 'poor thin dog, they obviously don't feed it enough' look. Ruby's stories always make me laugh; she obviously has not got time to peel them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I think she started off by stealing them and playing, but decided to eat them - obviously doesn't get her 5 a day! I get that look too, usually one of scorn at her manners - scabbing is her favourite past-time Luckily she's got cast iron guts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 So has Jazz usually She was absolutely fine after her escapade She's just sticking to the usual......socks from the wash basket, teatowels and J Cloths...... and now has taken to stealing lumps of composted poo which I've spread on the veggie plots ....oh, and flowerpots which she flips onto her nose and then runs around like some demented alien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigana Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 For future reference these are the levels needed for a 10kg dog to ingest for treatment to be necessary. This was copied from a veterinary notice. Obviously each dog differs and it is better to be on the safe side. My dog consumed less than the dose noted but suffered poisoning symptoms including hyperactivity and it damaged her liver. Anyway, if you know the theobromine level in the chocolate it is 20mg per kg to require treatment. For a 10kg dog: White chocolate: 22 kg (!!) - not sure if this is correct Drinking choc powder: 400g Milk chocolate: 90-134g Plain/dark chocolate: 2.5-45g Cocoa powder: 8-38g Cocoa beans: 5-18g Cocoa shell mulch: 7-15g Really glad your dog is ok Anna Edited to add - my dog was treated but it was too late to make her sick and even with charcoal to absorb the toxin there were still damages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlotta Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 This is a really useful chart that can give you a guide as to how much chocolate is dangerous. http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2007/10/pets/chocolate-chart-interactive.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...