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Just got back from taking my Mum to the recording of the Aled Jones Songs of Praise Christmas show at the Union Chapel in Islington. We had a lovely time singing Christmas carols and listening to some great singers. The show will be on TV on 12th December. look out for us - we are sitting just behind the 3 nuns all in white and in front of the man with a very LOUD voice wearing a white shirt and a red bow tie! :D That was the nice bit.

 

On the train back,I happened to glance at a young guy facing me a few seats back wearing baggy football shorts. Poor guy I thought, he has forgotten to put his pants on and has had a serious wardrobe malfunction. It took me a little while to realise that he was exposing himself to me. He had his baseball cap pulled down very low and he was staring directly at me! :x

 

I wasn't as shocked as he would have liked me to be and I chose to ignore him. He then moved seats twice during the journey, each time looking at me for a reaction. I did briefly think about standing up and loudly suggesting the he should "Put it away" but I didn't want to startle my mother! :?

 

Thankfully we were being met at the station and he didn't get off at our stop, but I was concerned that there were young girls on the train who might have been upset if they received the same treatment I had experienced. I got off the train and pressed the big green button on the emergency / help contraption on the platform. It was answered very quickly by a lovely young lady who immediately apologised for my experience and asked if I was OK. I gave her a description of the guy and she promised that the matter would be investigated.

 

What I really needed was a real life human being at the station that I could report the incident to. If I had been on my own, with "Ooops, word censored!"ody to meet me, if the guy had got off and followed me, if I had been a young frightened girl...... What then? We need more staff at stations, not less!

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:shock: Gosh - what a horrible end to an otherwise lovely evening, and congratulations on dealing with it so calmly - as you say, it might have been someone younger and more vulnerable. I hope the Transport Police are able to find him on CCTV or similar and track him down.
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I find men exposing themselves completely laughable, but I can totally understand your concern that not everyone would laugh as loudly as I would, and also that this kind of behaviour tends to escalate. Who knows what that man would be capable if he had gotten off the train with a lone female? I can't agree more about more staff, my local station is on the fringe of a large forest with no houses to speak of for about 7 mins walk, and has been unstaffed since I was 4 - so 24 years. A couple of times I've gotten off the train in the winter - usually after xmas shopping - and felt very vulnerable as a male has either been lurking at the station for no apparent reason or gotten off the train with me and followed me for a while.

 

What makes matters worse is that three years ago they removed the public telephone! So now if an attacker can get hold of you, he could have his merry way and simply by removing your mobile, make a very effectual escape with you left completely abandoned and unable to call for help. There's not even any CCTV at the station - or a button for emergencies.

 

More staff at train stations, I second it!

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What a horrible end to a lovely day for you. I do hope they find him.

 

There was a report in our local paper the other day that a young woman had been threatened with indecent comments by a group of young men on a train. She got off at our local station and then one of the 'yobs' indecently assaulted her. This is a small station and I doubt very much that there was anyone around - it was 10.30 at night. Horrible thing to happen.

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What a horrible end to the evening!

 

I haven't used trains for years - do they still have the emergency cords inside each carriage? - would you be able to activate that as the train stopped at the station?...........and would the driver be able to leave his cab if you did?

 

How worrying!

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Pleased you had a lovely day but eurgh what a horrible thing to have to deal with at the end of it :( I agree with the comments about there never seeming to be anyone to go to for help when you need it, I used to take a lot of long train journeys when I was younger, quite often with at least two changes, and would feel really vulnerable stood in remote stations waiting for the next train to arrive.

 

Luckily most journeys I take now are short, although I did have the misfortune to sit next to an extremely drunk and smelly bloke on a crowded train the other week. There was no-where for me to move to. At one point he was about to "frisk" me to make sure I wasn't a suicide bomber. :vom: I gently knocked his hand out the way and made a light-hearted comment (even though I felt like saying something else) as I didn't want to get him angry - he looked on the verge of losing his temper. When I got up to leave he got really angry that I wouldn't shake his hand. I feel sorry for the other travellers that would have had to put up with him as far as Norwich.

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How horrible for you :(

Thankfully, I don't use trains that often, but whenever I do - daytime or night time - I always sit in the busiest carriage or at least near to a few other people as I always feel very vulnerable. Not that that would necessarily stop someone exposing themselves, but I would feel better being nearer to some other people. Trains, and train stations in particular, at night time are not pleasant places to be.

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An unpleasant experience, but it sounds like you did all the right things. Ignoring attention seekers of any kind is the only way to go. Reporting it was important too though for the other people remaining on the train.

 

I travelled up and down the country by train as a teenager and I was fortunate that the worst I encountered were annoying drunks on a Friday night. I am not so sure that I would happily let my daughters travel as I did though.

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Laughing and pointing is a great response... Not the response they are looking for!!

 

But only when you're not by yourself. No good if you are getting off the train at the next quiet station alone, where the "idiot" could follow you...

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"Hang on mate, I'll get the telephoto lens on.." :lol:

 

:lol::lol: Im sure there is something wrong with men who feel the need to do this. Well done for handling the situation so well. My nearest station is Wolverhamptom which tends to have staff around most of the time but some of the smaller ones on route to Birmingham can be very lonely places :(

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I too have "bother me" written on my forehead, whether it be a flasher, a care in the community patient failed by the system they will attach themeselves to me. been there, done it got the DVD. Nearly 50 but still it happens - worse if in my nurses uniform - every moron around thinks they should talk to me. Poor you and what a nasty sad little man- I wouldve been tempted to pick the cap off his head and drop on his crouch and say " you dont want to get frostbite"

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