beach chick Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 just met a 4 month old puppy on the beach - cute, but huge already,and also the ONLY other dog my Ozzie (Lab) has EVER growled at - for being over-familiar. I love staffies, but really not sure about american bulldog cross - arent they a fighting breed? and possibly banned? or am I muddled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 My OH is seeing more and more of them and is quite concerned about the temperament of most of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach chick Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 I was really surprised that Oz growled, because he is the most submissive dog ever. all he wants to do is retrieve, but he will always just give up his ball/stick/whatever if another dog wants it, usually while laying on his back all 4 paws in the air, saying 'take me take me' - I've been on so many walks where another dog pinches his toy and we just have to carry on... we've had him 3 years and he's NEVER ever growled. the owners were quite proud of the breeding, and said "oh he's going to get really big". I do rather hope they arent locals - probably terribly unfair of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarlettohara Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I thought that constituted a pitbull or a least a breed on the banned list. Think you have to have them tattoed (on inner thigh) and muzzled in public and hold a licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 It is one of those grey areas. American Bulldogs are not banned but some have been deemed 'pitbull types' because of cross breeding or American Bulldogs who have 'looked' like Pitbulls. The only banned breeds in the UK are Pitbull, Tosas, Dogo Argentino & the Fila Braziliero. It is all a bit of a joke as people are crossing other previously placid breeds like Staffies with anything remotely aggressive and wide faced to produce a DIY Pitbull CM steps off the soapbox I have a feeling that Rhapsody has an American Pitbull (or 2) who are perfectly lovely (but in the right hands which is the key) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarlettohara Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Yes it's when they start getting crossed the the problems start I think from watching something on tv that if they get reported as being agressive or not under control and are deemed a 'pitbull' type that the licence etc comes into play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach chick Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 the law is pretty flawed anyway in this area I think... he was cute, and they did try to keep him under control but his recall was useless, er well actually non-existent now I come to think of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 It is really all about the owner. I know of someone who has a yappy, bitey small dog, her neighbours have complained and she is threatened with eviction. So.. she decided in her wisdom to get another dog. She is keeping both dogs in separate rooms in her tiny flat as she is worried that there will be a fight between the 2 of them For some people it makes no difference what the breed is, they can still get it wrong and raise a liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Yup I have two American Bulldogs and they are NOT on the banned list! Nor do they need to be tatooed or muzzled. They were NOT bred to be fighting dogs, the breed was the family dog of choice back in the day. They are loveable clowns, total blouses (my female ended up in rescue from a family where one of the children was abusing her, and she never fought back) loyal and gentle. They can be left around chickens goats cats in safety and want nothing but to adore you all day long. The only drawback to this breed is the flatulence! Zeus comes down the Farmers Market with me once a month and is a local celebrity, everyone loves the big galoot. Here they are with my other dog, funnily enough a StaffieX- as you can see they are all clearly savage beasts!! With horses (all loose on yard together) We often take them to a different area to stimulate them and do our bit for Bulldog Propaganda. Zeus comes hacking with me every time (thinks it is his job) Hope this shows what wonderful dogs these are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 They really look poised and ready to go for the throat in those photos Your black and tan dog is very beautiful, my sort of dog. I have to admit to thinking American Bulldogs were boxer crosses when I first saw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Gorgeous dogs . I was running with Riley this morning (who we were told was a Staffie X ) and a tiny terrier started growling and yapping at him and had to be put on the lead . Riley just ignored him and trotted past . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach chick Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 they look and sound gorgeous Rhapsody, a load of big softies! and clearly you know what you are doing, give them everything they need for a lovely proper doggy life etc etc. I love staffies, grew up with boxers (including sharing my ice cream lick for lick! ), but it's such a shame what ignorant/feckless/moneygrabbing back street breeders - and their clients - are doing to this 'type' of dog. I really hope this puppy grows up into a lovely dog too - but personally if I had a 4 month old pup with NO recall I would keep it on a lead in public til we'd got the recall sorted - I'd be too anxious not too, for the pup's safety as much as anyone else's. as I said, I was just really taken aback by Oz's reaction, and I suppose I wondered if he had picked up some kind of inherent character issue.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Yes, it really is down to the owner; Ruby is terrified of a couple of tiny, yappy fluffballs which once went for her in the local park. Her boyfriend is a lovely big boxer who is the same age - he's the biggest jessie I've ever met. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 "Punish the deed, not the breed. Look at the hand holding the lead" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 A friend had a gorgeous American Bulldog, she was plagued by ill health though and passed away very suddenly last month. She was a lovely girl, very soft and dopey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryegg Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Yes I agree with all the positive comments. No bad dogs but plenty of bad owners. Judging by the number of staffie types in the rescue centre hopefully the bad owners are quickly bored of their status symbol and the dog has a chance of a better life.They do make loyal and loving pets. I don't know what the answer is but too many dogs are being bred. Apparently dogs now exceed cats in number in the pet stakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 When I walked this morning in town (don't normal walk in town but good to keep the dog socialised) all I met were staffs and staff crosses. I hate seeing 1 breed go so popular with unsuitable owners. Having said that every one that we met this morning was lovely. I have a friend looking for a medium sized rescue dog but can't find anything that isn't a staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete. D Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Interested in your conversation. I've had 7 staffs over the years and the last passed away 6 months ago. I know the bread really well and could always control them off the lead. Seen an American Bull Cross Rotty that looks beautiful but I'm unsure. Read on line that they can be unsociable, especially with strangers and that's not what I want. Any honest advice welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat tails Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 This thread is from 2011... most of the people in this thread haven’t been around for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, Cat tails said: This thread is from 2011... most of the people in this thread haven’t been around for ages. Spammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat tails Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, The Dogmother said: Spammer? Who knows... But no obscure links this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapdragon Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Blast from the past though 😎. Where are they now 🤨? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
