4m x 3m Omlet pen, cube, new auto door still boxed and coop light

[Avril]

Hi, I am a newbie to the Omlet site but hoping someone can help. I have wormed my hens with Verm-X twice but droppings definately have something small, white and moving in them This is similar to threadworms in humans but smaller. All my hens look fit and well and are eating. They are ex-battery hens and I have had them about 4 months.

[chucknette]

Hi Avril

 

Welcome to the forum

 

You will need to get some flubenvet to worm your hens with as the verm x is is more of a preventative than a cure.

 

I believe you can get some from scats stores or other forum members have obtained it on line.

 

Hope this helps

 

Best wishes

[Christian]

Hello and welcome to the forum

 

I agree with chucknette, flubenvet is the best wormer IMHO.

[Egluntyne]

Ditto.

 

I used Verm-X for a while...and my girls had worms.

 

Flubenvet does a good job.

[Avril]

Many thanks. I have managed to get Flubenvet, after much paperwork. Have now been advised by shop not to use it so soon after Verm-X in case the 2 don't mix. I am still seeing what look like threadworms in fresh droppings though. Vet not much help as he could only suggest a dog wormer as not used to chickens. Perhaps if I wait a week? Would Verm-X be out of their system. I love my girls and only want to help them not make things worse.

[hils78]

I have just used panacur from pets at home - had to tell a little fib & say it was for my dog (haven't got one!) because the product is kept under lock. I got the one that is in paste form in a syringe & costs about £4.50. The paste its self smells mildly minty. I manage to dose all of my chooks by myself - only 1 cook gave me a run for my money!. This was on Saturday - I can already see the difference in the chickens. Initially I thought we had a case of Coccidiosis (sp?) because one of the birds was pooing mostly blood. Following the Panacur the blood stopped the next day. The 10 day Egg withdrawal was not an issue because the little madams haven't given me a single egg yet!

 

Edit, please note that Panacur is not licenced for use on poultry in the UK, many vets recommend its use though

[Egluntyne]

I would go ahead and use the Flubenvet, as it differs totally from the Verm-X which is largely a herbal brew.

 

I reckon an infestation of worms is likely to be worse for the hens than them having the Flubenvet straight after the Verm-X

 

In fact, now I come to think of it, this is exactly what I did, and my girls are all here to tell the tale (except for Nugget, who died of summat else).

[stoice]

I'm no egspert Avril (or a scientist) but I believe Verm x is a hebal preventative remedy so I'd have thought you shouldn't have to wait to start with Flubenvet. It'd be worse to leave your girls with worms I'd have thought, oh look, Egluntine thinks the same! As I'm writing this her message appeared. Wow

[Avril]

Well thanks to you all, I have waited a little time just to be sure Worm-X is out of their system and am now ready to dose. I have 6 hens, anyone understand how much Flubenvet to give and the best way to ensure they all get it?

[stoice]

These two links should help...

 

viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4619

 

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17703&hilit=flubenvet

[Avril]

Sorry to harp on about these worms but I used the Flubenvet and the worms disappeared. Unfortunately less than a month after worming the blighters are back! Is there any suggestions how to discourage them. I am currently putting a garlic clove in the water as I heard that might help. I am constantly de-pooping to try and stop re-infection. This is how I noticed them as they can only be seen in fresh poo.

[Egluntyne]

I'd worm them again if I were you. You can do it every three weeks.

 

If they free range, it is impossible to prevent them getting worms, as the eggs of some species live directly in the soil, an d others in worms, snails and slugs.

 

Apple Cider Vinegar in their drinking water makes the gut more hostile to parasites, and **Diatom** added to the feed will help too.

[Ain't Nobody Here]

Welcome to the forum, Avril . Sorry to hear you've been having problems with worms (your hens I mean!)

 

It's not necessarily anything you're doing wrong, as others have said. They just pick them up.

 

I use Flubenvet too, every 3 months and also use Stalosan F in their run every 6 weeks or so, when I rake it over and remove the top layer of soil/hemcore/poo.

[..lay a little egg for me]

They do say that if you see evidence of worms then you should use the flubenvet again 3 weeks after the first course of treatment; otherwise it is every 3 months.

[Avril]

Thank you everyone. I will worm again with Flubenvet and have been trying to find someone local who sells Stalosan F and Diatom. I am also going to use Apple Cider Vinegar and Garlic Powder. I'm attacking from all angles and determind I will beat these worms! I have had 3 eggs with large amounts of blood in the white and also eggs with cloudy whites which looked as is they were really old although they were fresh. Would this be the worms causing this?

[Ain't Nobody Here]

Found a link to Egg Problems on the FAQ Eggs page. Don't know if it really answers your question .

[Avril]

Thanks, I did look at Egg Problems page but it mentions blood spots. These were large clots. I'm hoping all will clear up after worming but it's the re-infestation that is the real problem.

[Dinkychick]

I think i have the same problem.... i wormed my new girls on verm x but saw a wriggly thing in bunny, the little ones pooh 2 days after i finished treatment. should i also use what you all recommend and do all 4 chucks ( the 2 new ones and the 2 original ones?)

Whats this about garlic... i must go read up about it. I thought verm x would stop the worms.... grim

[Avril]

Can't see any worms now and I'm using garlic in one drinker and apple cider vinegar in the other hoping to keep nasties at bay. I clean out coop every day and cover run with hemcore which I rake up every week but the girls freerange a lot and I guess pick up parasites then. My question now is I use the eggs myself as Flubenvet says no withdrawal but am not happy giving them to my daughter and daughter in law as both are pregnant. How long do I need to wait before they can have them?

Sorry Dinkychick, you might have already wormed your girls again by now but I have only had mine 5 months and they have been wormed 4 times with no ill effect. Having the worms would probably be worse for them.

[The Dogmother]

If you're concerned about giving your eggs to them, then you need to withdraw them for 7 days after the last dose.

 

Most hens will have a background level of worms in their gut, rather like cats and dogs, and it doesn't do them any harm at all. It is advised though to worm routinely 3 times a year, or more often if you see an infestation.