Egluntyne Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Just watched the news and apparently the poor girl had serious underlying health problems, so maybe the vaccine wasn't entirely to blame, if at all. How dreadful for her family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Yes, we get a double dose of the news on this as it is a Midlands school - a serious, underlying medical problem is what they are saying this morning and tests carried out suggest teh vaccination was not to blame. Vaccinations will continue. So terribly, terribly sad for her family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlo Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Call me neurotic but I am still going to wait for a while before DD gets it. A friend said that we may have to pay for the vaccine if she doesn't have it now but I just feel more comfortable not going ahead with it at the moment. So terrible for the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurmurf Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I was sad to hear about this poor girl but knew it wasn't the vaccination to blame. As someone who campaigned for this vaccination programme for older girls, and as I've had cervical cancer, my daughters have had the vaccine. When hellymisscloud's was done there were no problems, no fainting and no reactions out of the hundreds of girls done that day. On one hand there is a very real risk of illness and death and on the other hand there is a media-hyped fear story: I know which one I'd take. As for my boys, I'd march them straight to the front of the queue if I could get them vaccinated too. As it is the private vaccines cost £550 and I just can't afford that for the boys. I'm taking a smaller risk with them but I still feel selfish in doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 if she was feeling poorly she shouldnt have had the jab. If in doubt i leave it a week. i dont give these jabs but it applies with any. I suspect we'll find she had a heart problem which probably sadly would've killed her at anytime in the future. i always say to parents if your child is prone to fainting ask for ECG as it can show undiagnosed probs. ES had one after a near faint some yrs back - thankfully ok. I agree papers scare monger. I have yet to find a patient who wants swine flu jab. Hey ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I just heard on the news that the girl wasn't killed by the vaccine, but had a tumour, which spread to her lungs and, sadly, killed her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I heard that today as well Fred. My sister's school was due to have their's tomorrow but it has been postponed. My sister is thrilled as i don't she had got used to the idea of an injection. She wants it done at the doctors now rather than in school. Tbh i don't think there is any rush in her having it done as she is only 13 and so maybe she will wait and make a decision about it when she is older and can weigh out the pros and cons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alih Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 My eldest daughter had hers today, my second daughter has already had hers. The death was tragic but I am astonished at the reaction of a lot of parents at the school, knowing the poor girl's death had nothing to do with the jab. Cervical cancer kills young people as well as older people and the likelihood of dying from that far far outweighs the likelihood of having an adverse reaction to the jab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 How horribly sad for this family, what an awful shock for them and to have their lives all over the media during what should be a private time. I just hope that people don't stop having the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlo Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 At school today most of the girls had theirs done. DD didn't. (I hear what everyone has said on here but she as she is only 12 I am not beating myself up too much about it!) Some of the girls reacted badly although DD did say that she wasn't sure whether that was down to the jab or down to the fact that the girls were getting themselves in a tizz about it! She wouldn't have been able to have it today even if I had not withdrawn consent as she was off school with a cold last week and is still a bit snotty and apparently it shouldn't be given when the child has been or is ill - which makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 very sad for the girl and family the cancer was very advanced and could have killed her at any moment my dd is 21 and said she would go for the jab if offered mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cate in NZ Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Oh my goodness, I'd not heard of this story...my heart goes out to the girl's family, such a tragedy. But it does sound as if the vaccine was coincidental to the girl's death. Personally I find it hard to understand why she was given the vaccine if she was so unwell, and that's speaking as someone who is, overall, in favour of it. But it's always easy to be wise after an event.......and there's nothing to be gained at all from speculating about why's & wherefores. Just so terribly sad that a young person has lost her life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilda-and-evadne Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I am astonished at the reaction of a lot of parents at the school, knowing the poor girl's death had nothing to do with the jab. It would be natural if the girl's parents (and her friends) felt now: but for the vaccine, we would have had Natalie with us for a bit longer, and we would have had time to say good-bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Frankly a jab hurts less than a piercing - I see kids with pierced ears, belly buttons etc and they get hysterical about a jab - I'd sooner have a jab than a piercing - hurts like hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 When I was taking DS for his first jabs as a baby there was another little girl in there with her grandmother. The baby would have been no more than three or four months old. The grandmother explained to the nurse that her daughter couldn't bear to come in and see her getting hurt. At this point the nurse said, "She didn't mind taking her to have her ears pierced though did she?" Grandma had no reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaz Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 ....Personally I find it hard to understand why she was given the vaccine if she was so unwell...... Cate, you won't have seen the papers; she hadn't been diagnosed and appeared perfectly well beforehand, the tumour was only found post mortem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 My DD will not have it done, I am quite in agreement. I see that the UK is administering the cheap option. Either way, I think it is too early and I don't want my daughter to be a guinea pig - at 17 she is old enough to make up her own mind. Too much of this vaccine here there that vaccine there and everywhere without seeing what happens further down the line and proper testing - in my opinion. I'm not bothered whether people agree with me or not - everyone is allowed to have their own views. Mine is of growing mistrust with the authorities and I really don't think any of us are getting the full picture - only what they want us to see. I am going to duck and run and hide away now because I know I will upset someone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadietoo Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Couldn't agree with you more Koojie and Scrambled...Yes vaccines are tested before they are released, but only on a small group...until it is rolled out in a grand scale you won't know what the problems are with it....and if I had the choice I would wait until later (my DD is just too old (19) and so won't be offered the vaccine but I'm not beating myself up about it.).Of course if you have personal experience of the disease you will see it differently but it is actually quite a small risk, 1 in 10,000 or something like that. I am worried about the whole vaccination culture which has grown up...small babies are given doses of goodness knows what all together....children are taken by their parents to TRIAL the swine flu vaccine ( sorry for shouting mods but ) and of course surgeries get paid for rolling out the vaccinations...... it all just worries me that no one thinks they should contract anything these days....meanwhile thousands die from Malaria each year........and AIDS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickencam Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 My ED was due to have her first one tomorrow but she is going to leave it until there is more information and our surgery have said that when she is ready they will order and administer the vaccine for her. All of her friends are going ahead as far as we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I dont see what all the fuss is about with swine flu, more people die from normal flu every year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadietoo Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Fred have there really been over 1500 deaths from Swine Flu already or is that just projected ( I totally agree, I think it's a storm in a teacup...talked up by the media (like everything..yawn) and worried loads of people for nothing.. Like I said before, we should be doing something about Malaria....or Aids... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I agree with Fred, it's the media gone mad and the government trying to put up a smoke screen. Remember SARs and Bird Flu, they soon got bored with them, they were supposed to wipe us all out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
