chuckmum6 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I came across Harkamectin, an on-spot worms and lice treatment in Practical Poultry, does anyone use it? I wondered how affective it is, what the dosage would be on chickens and what egg withdrawal there would be? It sounds like a great product and I like the idea of a single treatment, but I don't think it is designed for chickens specifically any comments welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 It contains ivermectin which doesn't kill all relevant poultry worms species. It is of course *not licensed for poultry* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 It is *not licensed for use on poultry in the UK ... I'm sure many use it, or similar products to prevent lice and mites. As it isn't licensed, it would be wise to observe an egg withdrawal period after administering it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 It's Ivermectin in a small bottle, similar to eprinex which comes as a cattle pour-on size. When my eprinex goes too far past it's use by date I might try some. It will probably be quite expensive but seeing as I use treatment for external parasites only once or twice a year it might be handy. I never bother with egg withdrawal times for hubby and me unless using antibiotics but I don't give them away for a week after treatment. Looking at the other posts which crossed mine.......Is it advocated for external and internal parasites? I'm surprised because as CM says it doesn't get all worms but it sure does wallop lice I would use flubenvet for worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovychook Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I came across Harkamectin, an on-spot worms and lice treatment in Practical Poultry, does anyone use it? I wondered how affective it is, what the dosage would be on chickens and what egg withdrawal there would be? It sounds like a great product and I like the idea of a single treatment, but I don't think it is designed for chickens specifically any comments welcome! Just wondering if you decided to try it in the end? I've just bought some of this but am not sure how much to use on my chooks. I've read somewhere on line that 2-3 drops is about the right amount. Any idea how long for egg withdrawal? Does a week sound about right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckmum6 Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 No I haven't used it yet, as the girl were laying well, but now three hens have all gone broody :wall:and egg production is low I may well give it a go. I was planning on two drops on my lot. A week should be enough for withdrawal I hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovychook Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Two drops it is then! Mine are all on the small size anyway so I'm sure that'll do... Good luck with your broodies... Mrs Bishop was in the broody cage last week. It seems to have done the trick Can't imagine having 3 of them at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckyBeak Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Two drops is based on the average weight of a pigeon which is 500g. I checked this with the manufacturer who would not discuss it's use for chickens but did confirm that point. Our vet said that you need to scale the dosage up based on the weight of the hen. For example a 2 Kg hen would need 8 drops. He also recommended a 7 day egg withdrawal period. Harka Mectin is not licensed for use on poultry in the UK I have used it for parasites rather than for worming although it does deal with some worms ( the ones that pigeons have), Flubenvet is the best wormer for chickens One other point, there are other Ivermectin based products available, which have different strengths, so always make sure you read the products instructions and scale up or down accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovychook Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Harka Mectin is not licensed for use on poultry in the UKI have used it for parasites rather than for worming although it does deal with some worms ( the ones that pigeons have), Flubenvet is the best wormer for chickens Thanks for the research! I don't have any scales, but my chooks are only bantams, so I'm hoping that the dose I gave them yesterday will do the job. I'm only using it as a preventative for lice & mites- They are regularly wormed with flubenvet every 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I gave up on these treatments as the number of drops needed made it uneconomical for me I use Eprinex now but its easy for me to source easily as I have a holding number and dont get asked tricky questions! A better bet may be to ask your vet for Frontline spray - its not licenced for chooks either but is very very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovychook Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I gave up on these treatments as the number of drops needed made it uneconomical for me I use Eprinex now but its easy for me to source easily as I have a holding number and dont get asked tricky questions! A better bet may be to ask your vet for Frontline spray - its not licenced for chooks either but is very very good My vet actually suggested that I used Frontline spray (not licenced for chickens) and wasn't prepared to prescribe eprinex for me. However, when I asked her how much I should spray on them, she said to just keep spraying until their feathers looked as though they had hair gel on them . I was worried about overdosing them, so I decided against it. How much would you spray them with? I might bear it in mind for their next dose in 3 months time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I gave up on these treatments as the number of drops needed made it uneconomical for me I use Eprinex now but its easy for me to source easily as I have a holding number and dont get asked tricky questions! A better bet may be to ask your vet for Frontline spray - its not licenced for chooks either but is very very good My vet actually suggested that I used Frontline spray (not licenced for chickens) and wasn't prepared to prescribe eprinex for me. However, when I asked her how much I should spray on them, she said to just keep spraying until their feathers looked as though they had hair gel on them . I was worried about overdosing them, so I decided against it. How much would you spray them with? I might bear it in mind for their next dose in 3 months time. Frontline Spray is pretty safe. They generally test overdosing to approx 10 X the recommended dose to check for side effects, you should be fine using it as your vet suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovychook Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Frontline Spray is pretty safe. They generally test overdosing to approx 10 X the recommended dose to check for side effects, you should be fine using it as your vet suggested. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 The generally accepted dose of frontline spray is one squirt by the vent and another under a wing It doesnt seem too scientific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovychook Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Right! So anywhere between that and the air gel effect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 It's Ivermectin in a small bottle, similar to eprinex which comes as a cattle pour-on size.When my eprinex goes too far past it's use by date I might try some. It will probably be quite expensive but seeing as I use treatment for external parasites only once or twice a year it might be handy. I never bother with egg withdrawal times for hubby and me unless using antibiotics but I don't give them away for a week after treatment. Looking at the other posts which crossed mine.......Is it advocated for external and internal parasites? I'm surprised because as CM says it doesn't get all worms but it sure does wallop lice I would use flubenvet for worms. I use Ivomec Eprinex* and Flubenvet as the IE isn't a reliable wormer. * not licensed for use on poultry in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migsy Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I've always used Diatom as a preventative for lice and mites. How effective is it compared to Frontline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 It's good, both for preventing lice and mites but I've no experience of using it to treat either problem though I've read it's effective. When I had an outbreak of NFM in my LF last year, I did choose the nuclear option though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I've always used Diatom as a preventative for lice and mites. How effective is it compared to Frontline? I use Diatom in the dustbath but don't rely on it to kill any lice or mites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckmum6 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Well I have given it a go now, I shall observe egg withdrawal for a week , I'm not using it as a wormer but more as a louser just in case. I'm not too sure I will bother again but I see how it goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickichicky Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 The generally accepted dose of frontline spray is one squirt by the vent and another under a wing It doesnt seem too scientific This sounds good - I have frontline Puppy&Kitten spray here for my Chihuahua. Is there still an egg withdrawal time with Frontline? I have just found a few lice round the vent of my 2 Bovans Goldlines I routinely treat them with DE both puffed into their feathers & in the dustbath. But it's obviously not doing the trick. I have got the proper Louse Powder too but I have to be so careful with it as I had a bad reaction to it last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Have some harkamectin,and was thinking about using on my speckledy who i think may have lice ,would 4 drops be enough do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Depends on what weight your bird is, and the concentration of the Harkamectin - it will give instructions on the bottle/packet as to number of drops per weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Thanks ,think I will head up to the house with my scales at bedtime that should confuse the neighbours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 You'll get used to estimating the weight of a bird, the best way to weigh them is in a carrier bag suspended from some fishing scales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
