Egghead68 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) Help please! My 5 year-old pekin crowed like a cockerel this morning and has spent the rest of the day sitting in the broody position, although not in the egg box. Her bottom is pulsating vigorously She last laid 2 days ago (Saturday) and is eating normally. She seemed very fit and well till this morning. She has been wormed recently and eats layers' mash grit and greens. Could she have an ovarian tumour? Be egg-bound? Any suggestions or advice much appreciated. Edited July 30, 2012 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 At the vet now having an X-ray. Fingers crossed it is not a tumour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 X-ray showed an extended gizzard pressing on everything. Treatment is liquid paraffin and water only - no food - and keeping her in isolation in the semi-dark. Can be fatal so fingers still crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 But now the vet's not sure of the diagnosis as she's just pooed, which shouldn't be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimi5 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Oh what a worry!!! I've not heard of an impacted gizzard before, but lost my lavender pekin to an impacted crop She was just 1 yr old and had been laying for a short while. My vet tired all she thought reasonable but in the end she had to be PTS. The vet thought it my have been a problem particuliar to her as she was eating and had been pooing but couldn't get enough nutition through once laying Hope your girlie is ok!!! If you have a chicken friendly vet, together all you can do is your best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 Thank you Mimi and I'm sorry about your girl. This explains more about the condition: http://www.avianweb.com/blockedgizzard.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I do hope she gets over it. Passing droppings sounds like things may be starting to move. All fingers crossed for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 If she had an impacted gizzard, I'm surprised that she was eating well, as described in the opening post, as food would 'back up' . Perhaps it was a partial obstruction that has shifted. They eat all sorts of things that they shouldn't, like cable ties and bits of string. Maybe she has picked up something like that. I hope there is some improvement today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Thanks everybody. I am pleased to say that she has passed a huge and smelly poo after 2 doses of mineral oil (sorry for tmi). I can feel there is more to come. Less good news is that the stress seems to be bringing on a bout of mycoplasma but at least I know what I'm dealing with with that. Egluntyne - I agree. She was eating voraciously even on the way to the vet's. The vet she saw is going to email the X-ray to my normal avian vet (currently helping out at the olympics) to try to clarify the diagnosis. For anyone who needs to know the treatment for blocked gizzard according to the vet is: (a) isolate and keep in a warm darkened room (not sure why) (b) 2.5ml mineral oil per kg twice a day dripped slowly into beak © starve - only allow drinking water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 STARVE FOR HOW LONG? oop soryr left typing chook in arm and treat etc how long please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Sorry - they told me 24 hours then start on watery foods if she has passed some of the blockage. Not sure how long for mineral oil - I guess till hen seems back to normal. Specialist vet thinks it might be a tumour blocking her gizzard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Specialist vet thinks it might be a tumour blocking her gizzard Fingers crossed they are wrong then... so sorry, going through something similar myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimi5 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Thanks for the link!!!! Really informative! Well that's something else I've learned But sorry that she might have a growth When will you know?? A pat on the back for getting her this far!!!!! Let's hope for a good result!!!!! I've just been on a human similair experience, had a lump removed and just got my results back today and it's all ok...Phew!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 An impacted gizzard is pretty uncommon and is usually caused by one of two things.... eating a foreign object or a tumour either blocking the gizzard or further down the digestive tract. The vet has suggested keeping her in the dark/warm to keep her calm and to lessen the chance of shock, which can kill a bird. The usual treatment is to flush the system by withdrawing food for 48 hours and giving water containing a good poultry tonic such as Life-Guard, this will usually clear the system and flush out any foreign objects. Any sort of oil will also help ease the passage of any debris. Typically, if the bird doesn't respond to this treatment then it can mean a blockage/tumour either in the gizzard or further down. If this is the case then it's usually kinder to PTS I'm afraid. I hope that she improves and hets rid of whatever is blocking her up, the fact that she is pooing is positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 it would have been most helpful if I had had time 13 days ago to read this thread... as impacted Gizzard was first diagnosis.. but it was in fact a blocked crop... most helpful thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Update: She has passed an awful lot of very hard poo, is eating nonstop to make up for lost time and has perked up nicely (although she now has early myco from stress of vet visit etc. for which she is on antibiotics). She is back outside with the others and being bossy as usual. However - the vet had a another feel and says there is still a lump there, although it is much smaller, which may be residual blockage or may indeed be a tumour She is still on a half dose of mineral oil and I am to keep an eye out for signs of a tumour (poor appetite and weight loss). Fingers crossed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Just make sure that she's drinking enough good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Fingers crossed for your girl . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Thank you both. She isn't drinking much but I will try to syringe some water. Mimi - sorry, missed your post earlier. Glad you are OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimi5 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Thanks!! So glad to hear she's picking up!!! I guess you'll just have to wait and see how she goes. You sound to have a great vet.....lucky you(and your little pekin!!) Please let us know how she goes. Wishing her a speedy recovery!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 good luck.. x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Thanks both of you. Good luck with yours too, Sandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 She recovered nicely in August and has been fine until this week when sadly the problem seems to have recurred. I do just wonder whether it is related to coming into lay as she seems to be on the verge of this. She has been put on a horrible cocktail of noroclav and metacam injections plus something called vomed to try to move things along in her gut, as well as mineral oil and fluconazole. Unfortunately she seems completely back up with not even water emptying from her crop. My plan is to give the treatment (plus starvation) 48 hours to work and then pts if no improvement. Here's hoping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
good_egg Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 oh dear fingers crossed x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
