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[Joojoo]

Hi

 

My trusty 12 year old Vauxhall Vectra is coming to the end of it's days after nearly 5 years of faithful service, so I need to have a look around now for a new car. Most of the cars I've had have been Vauxhalls with the exception of a Seat Ibiza, Mini and a fabulous Subaru Imprezza which had to go when OH and I separated :sad: (for the car not the OH ) so I need to know a bit about the other makes/models that are about.

 

I need to have something that is reliable for taking Dad to hospital appointments and work so can you let me know what you've got and what you think of it please? I quite like the look of the Peugeot 307 but I've heard mixed reports of Peugeot's reliability so need to have a few options.

 

If I've missed off a make that you think should be on the list, please let me know and I'll add it.

 

Many Thanks

Jue

 

Doh edited it to add Suzuki and it's wiped all the results so far

Edited February 8, 2009 by Guest

[Redwing]

I voted Renault as I have had two as company cars and have maxed out the mileage before swapping them (80k miles each over two years average) without a single problem as have most of my colleagues

 

The company Fords always seem to be going in for this and that

 

My Megane was a fantastic car, really comfy and smooth - my new BMW isn't a patch on it!

[ubereglu]

We have a citroen. It's now in it's 7th year and the only problem we've had with it was that the alternator's bearings went and we had to get that fixed last week.

 

My sister has a skoda and she finds hers fine, it needs the odd bit of fixing now and then, but it's a W reg, so not going too bad!

[Snowy]

You haven't got ours on the list - Suzuki! We've had a little Alto from new and I'd love to upgrade to a Suzuki Swift. The service has been second to none and it's been dead reliable. Some very good deals on brand new Swifts around at the moment as well! We have got a 2001 Espace which I love, so Renault would come a close second, followed by Ford.

[Gamebird]

Since 1989 I have had Ford cars and have only been let down once and that was due to bad servicing (the garage closed down a month later ).

 

I have a Ford Focus at the moment and I love it. It heats up really quickly on cold days and has an efficient air conditioning system for hot days. I hate being too hot or too cold.

 

It's really cheap to service as it never has anything wrong with it.

[Omletina Kyckling]

I don't have anything off the list but have voted VW because I've run old GTis in the past and they've been superb and I have an Audi quattro which is brilliant (same company)

 

Honda and Toyota usually come out high up on reliability surveys such as JD Power. Don't know if that helps?

[chelsea]

I voted VW as they are reliable and hold their value.

 

I wouldnt touch peugot or renault (in my opinion ) my sister has a renault and has had nothing but trouble with it, they also loose value quickly.

 

I would put Toyota as 2nd choice, as above I dont think you'd go wrong with a japanese built car. Some Nissans have renault engines though.

[chelsea]

 

Honda and Toyota usually come out high up on reliability surveys such as JD Power

 

 

OH agrees with Toyota or honda as reliable.

[Blackrocksrock]

My little toyota is very reliable indeed and when someone I knew saw I had a Toyota Yaris he said it was the most reliable little car in the world! - Never seen or heard of this since and he does not have a toyota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cinnamon]

I love my Fiat Panda & she is very reliable,but before that I also had a very reliable Merc & several ultra reliable VW's , so maybe I had better not vote!

[Chickvic]

We have a Kia Rio and it's been great! Are you buying new or used?

[Redwing]

We have a Kia Rio and it's been great!

 

We had one of those as a hire car and I loved it, it was totally brilliant and very well equipped, it got us around Lapland in -28 degree temps on snowy roads without setting a tyre wrong, was lovely and comfy, a zippy ride and started faithfully every day I was sorry to leave it at the airport when we came home

[ruth1]

I had a Suzuki Swift for about 6 yeas from new as I couldnt afford to replace it and it was the most jinxed, expensive car i've ever had.by the time i could afford to replace it I had, had many many a thought of sticking a match to it.

 

followed by an Astra which was a fantastically reliable car( until I wrote it off, oops ), in followed now by a Nissan Terrano for the last year which again is proving to be reliable.

 

My hubby has had a Seat Ibiza for about five years now and thats been great little car.

[Joojoo]

Thanks everyone - keep them coming I'm buying used. Hopefully will have between £4k and £5k to spend if I can do some scrabbling around. I had a Seat Ibiza for 5 years and it was fantastic. Might be tempted to have a look at the Seat Leon. Alot of the big dealerships from around here have disappeared over the past couple of years so will have to travel further afield to see those.

 

Ex OH says buy Japanese everytime but I'm not sure which ones I like yet. Ideally I would like a 1.6cc. Will have to take a day off and do some hunting around.

[Ygerna]

My last two cars were Vauxhalls and both were reliable and trustworthy. We still have one, its our 'work horse' and does a grand job. Our other car now is a Honda but only had it a few months so can't really compare though I do love it.

[Helly Welly]

Our previous car was a Rover, sadly not made anymore, and clocked up 243,000 miles. We only bought a new car because we needed something bigger, but i can't vote as Jaguar isn't on your list. If you want our Rover, make us an offer!! For some reason, it's not that easy to sell a car that's got that sort of mileage

[Milly]

Sometimes it can depend on the car itself. I had a Citroen C3 which was a great car but which kept breaking down. Really odd things too, like the windscreen wiper motor going. I know it rains a lot, but I have never heard of that happening to anyone else - and it was only two years old.

 

I replaced it with a Honda which has been trouble free so far (nearly 4 years).

 

Milly

[Joojoo]

I think I quite like the Toyota Avensis. Has anyone got/had one? They are supposed to be very reliable and look very comfortable. I'd love a sports car but practicality is more important at the mo.

[Ardene5]

Hi

The first job to do is to think about what you want the car to do.

Then write a list of makes that fit that bill.

For example Toyota Yaris Verso, 5 doors,etc

Look it up on the internet you might find some thing like -------------

 

If You Want A Small MPV That Didnt Start Out In Life As A Plumbers Van, The Toyota Yaris Verso Is Probably The Best Place To Start Looking.

 

Although we didnt realise it at the time, the launch of Toyotas Yaris Verso in 1999 was a significant event. Here was a tiny MPV-style vehicle that broke all the existing rules. For a start it wasnt based on a commercial vehicle and whats more it actually did offer added utility over and above the Yaris hatch upon which it was based. Times move quickly, however, and other manufacturers have moved in to copy Toyotas formula.

 

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In response, the Yaris Verso has been given a mild facelift and equipment boost to keep it on top of its game.

 

The grille and headlights are the two targets that every manufacturer unerringly homes in on when refreshing the look a car and with good reason. Along with the front bumpers, these constitute the face of the car and Toyota has resculptured the grille, given the headlights a distinctive teardrop shape and have redesigned the front and rear bumpers as well as the tail light cluster. The interior benefits from some additional safety equipment. The centre berth on the rear bench seat is now fitted with a proper three-point seat belt but many will feel its prior omission somewhat surprising for a car that campaigned as a family favourite.

 

Side airbags have also been added for front seat occupants. The three-spoke steering wheel has been redesigned and is now finished in leather, whilst if you can stretch to the T-Spirit trim level youll also get inbuilt stereo controls. This trim level also benefits from a CD-based stereo while the T3 adopts a new wheel trim design. But hold on: let's backtrack just a minute. A people carrier based on a tiny supermini? Surely not. Well stand by for a surprise. Here's a car not much longer than a Fiesta yet with more interior space than MPVs from the next class up like Renault's Scenic. Fold all the seats down and there's more luggage space than a Mercedes E-class. Keep them up and you've just about room for a family of five - for a lot less than the cheapest Astra or Focus.

 

"Innovation has paid off for Toyota in the unconventional shape of the Yaris Verso."

 

To be fair, five full-sized adults might find things a bit of a squash, given that the depsite its three-point seat belt the centre rear seat is actually half the normal width. Better to fold it into an armrest or a picnic tray and travel comfortably four-up. Alternatively, you can take the thing out completely (it weighs just six kilos) and clip it neatly away on the side of the boot. That enables passengers to enter the car from the rear side-hinged door as well as from the sides.

 

They can also let themselves out thanks to an inside handle. But it's when you don't need so much passenger space that this Toyota's Verso-tility really comes into its own. The two main rear seats fold individually forward under the floor - though in a special right-to-left order which means that only the right seat can be used on its own. Once everything's tucked away, a massive 2160 litres of space is available - more than most family estate cars. Certainly it's enough for two tea chests side by side - and you could fit a couple more in behind were it not for the protruding wheelarches. There's plenty of oddments space too, with a twin-lidded glovebox in front of the front passenger and aircraft-style overhead luggage bins built into the roof above the sunvisors. A couple of cupholding slots sit in front of the gearstick and there are more built into the removable centre seat at the back. Unlike the standard supermini however, Yaris Verso buyers get only two engine options - the 85bhp 1.3-litre VVT-i unit which makes sixty in 12.

 

5s on the way to 102mph and the frugal D4-D diesel powerplant. Still, both are economic, with even the petrol 1.3 just as frugal as the ordinary Yaris' 1.0-litre unit - expect to average nearly 45mpg on a regular basis. For those looking for greater economy, D4-D diesel engined Yaris Veros variants manage over 56mpg in regular use. You won't be expecting driving excitement from a car like this - nor does the little Toyota deliver it - but as long as you don't throw it around too much, the Verso can be punted along at a surprisingly respectable speed. Priced from £10,945 (or from £11,845 in D4-D form), the Yaris Verso costs just £500 more than its standard supermini sibling. Two versions badged T3 and T Spirit are now on offer, and come well equipped, with electric front windows and mirrors, twin airbags, central locking, ABS and power steering. The plusher T Spirit includes air conditioning, front foglamps and alloy wheels.

 

A four-speed automatic and satellite navigation are amongst the options, though sadly, UK buyers can't specify the twin sunroofs offered to continental customers, criticisms are few. Certainly, the UK importers has had no trouble in shifting the 3,000 Versos earmarked for the UK on an annual basis. Innovation has paid off for Toyota in the unconventional shape of the Yaris Verso and even now its hard to see a credible challenger to its throne.

 

FACTS AT A GLANCE

CARS: Toyota Yaris Verso

PRICE: £10,945-£12,645 - on the road when new

INSURANCE GROUP: 5

CO2 EMISSIONS: 133-165g/km

PERFORMANCE: [1.3] 0-60mph 12.5s / Max Speed 102mph

FUEL CONSUMPTION: [1.3] (urban) 35.3mpg / (extra urban) 51.4mpg /(combined) 44.1mpg

STANDARD SAFETY FEATURES: Twin front and side airbags, ABS, EBD WILL IT FIT IN YOUR GARAGE: (length/width/height) 3860/1690/1680mm

 

 

Now if you follow the format of this you might find the car you are looking for

Build

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you will not go far wrong.

 

Always test drive the car and walk away from any garage you do not like because you will never be happy buying from them.

 

Hope this helps

 

 

Best regards

 

 

Ian & Valerie

[Mutrix Farmers]

No mention of Citroen. We've had 3 now and are very happy. Prior to that we drove Peugeots but we didn't like the new models they brought out 3/4 years ago. The ones we had though were very good (especially my fab 206 2 litre turbo diesel)

[Willow]

We tend to buy a car new and run it until it stops so are only on our 4th car between us.

 

Citroen AX GT - loved this car, zippy when it was new and very reliable. Lovely salesman who realised we were so naive about buying cars we didn't realise you negiotiate on list price so threw in normal discount levels without us asking - was a bit of a shock to read in the paper later that he'd been put away for armed bank robbery. Eventually the spring back on the ignition went, the car still worked as the AA guy showed me a trick to start the car (still using the key ) but it wouldn't have got through an MOT without it being fixed and a new lock would have cost a lot more than the car was worth it was so ol. So when the next MOT can up we stopped running it (and gave it to the garage that serviced it). Shame last few years when it was the second car it only cost the MOT, 1 service a year and the cost of petrol and tax - oh and the odd wiper blade.

 

Audi A4. I loved driving this car but it was a friday afternoon job I think. Went wrong more than once and was off the rd for weeks at one stage when Audi couldn't get a part whilst our old citroen just kept going. Was a company car so was happy to hand it back to them when I left.

 

Peugeot 306 - great car, slightly more to go wrong than the citroen so cost a little more in servicing but never let us down and we were very happy with it. Engine started looking ropey last year but we were culpable as we were rather casual about checking oil levels Again it was old enough it wasn't worth replacing the engine. Gave it to one of my nephews as he's good with cars, I think he has now sold it on.

 

Ferrying around kids plus friends meant a 7 seater would be useful so gone for a 3 yr old low mileage Vauxhall Zafira. Been reliable so far.

 

I did conclude (and it sounds obvious) but the simpler the car the less there is to go wrong. So much as we like gadgets and technology in normal circumstances we made a decision to go for a car without too many extras (although A/C is essential imo).