Cinnamon Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 When they are a 16 year old My eldest turned 16 a month ago, & even though she is still officially a child until she is 18, she now has to pay full fare on public transport, which I think is terrible My friend also tells me that when her 16 year old was in hospital for tests, they wouldn't give the parents the results - they had to go directly to her child. What about theatres & cinemas - is she now expected to pay adult fees there, like she is at the hairdressers now,literally doubling the cost? I am also wondering about things like dental treatment, child passports & so forth - anyone have any info on if she will now need a full adult passport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poachedegg Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 From the Home Office website: When is a child too old for a child passport? If your child is under 16 they cannot apply for an adult passport. For example, a 15-year-old who needs a passport must apply for a 5-year child passport. They can use this until it runs out, in this case when the ‘child’ is 20. When a child reaches 16 the next passport they apply for once their current 5-year child passport runs out should be a 10-year renewal adult passport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 Thanks Devons runs out in 2 years, when she will be 18, so thats good. Still annoyed at her having to pay adult train fares when she is still officially a child though......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I recently discovered that over 16 year olds are supposed to pay full fare on Edinburgh's buses . They seem to "get away" with paying a child fare if they're in school uniform though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baby bears mum Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I was going to say when its male but I see what you mean now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Still annoyed at her having to pay adult train fares when she is still officially a child though......... I don't, My Oyster card for free bus, tram and reduced fares for trains and tube runs out in September. When that runs out I can apply for a pass that gives me reduced fares all round (since im still in full time education). Seems stupid that there are 2 ages, why can't it be one or the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 We can get 16-18 travel cards, which means you still pay child fares on the train or bus. I think for dental treatment it is up until 18 and still in full time education. Cinema's around here class 15 as an adult film, so adult fee's apply, and theatres, if they have concessions, are below 18. If you try to go to hospital, you're not classed as a child, and not as an adult, so no-one knows who to see you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 For trains get a young persons railcard. They're only £24 a year now and you can make quite good savings with them too, or you can opt for a 3 year one online for £65, which is even better value! For dentists etc it's up to 19 if you're still in full time education I think, and then after that if you're still in full time education you have to fill in a form to get reductions etc. (My sister had to do this!). Hope that helps a bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raina Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I had to start paying adult prices when i was 12 Bus drivers wouldnt belive that i was only 12, even after i gave them my birth date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleTree Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 In Wales you get free dental examinations up to the age of 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 For trains get a young persons railcard. They're only £24 a year now and you can make quite good savings with them too, or you can opt for a 3 year one online for £65, which is even better value! Thanks Liz. Trouble is the railcard is only for trips after 10 am. And we are nowhere very near to the train station for college. The local bus has a subsidised card which you buy in a clump of weeks, but as it covers a really large route area, its £60 for 12 weeks - Devon only needs to do a 2 mile journey every day I suppose its the price we pay for living in a nice quiet village in a rural area........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Encourage her to cycle to college. Would that work? There's no point for me, college is only down the road, turn the corner, up the road, turn a corner and keep going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 Encourage her to cycle to college. Would that work? Not possible. The main road into Henley is a deathtrap nightmare & the back roads are so narrow & winding that I couldn't let her. I am going to try & campaign for a college bus from the village, as there are about 5 of them starting this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 When they are a 16 year old My friend also tells me that when her 16 year old was in hospital for tests, they wouldn't give the parents the results - they had to go directly to her child. thats because the legal age of consent is 16yrs, at 16 you can sign your own consent for operations amongst other things and refuse to let the Drs & nurses discuss your case with your parents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Encourage her to cycle to college. Would that work? Not possible. The main road into Henley is a deathtrap nightmare & the back roads are so narrow & winding that I couldn't let her. I am going to try & campaign for a college bus from the village, as there are about 5 of them starting this year Sounds like a plan. Sounds a bit like part of my reasoning for not going to Gryphon Sixth Form. It's only about 4 miles away, but I'd have to cycle up a dual carriageway-not a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phonix Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 With the medical things it 16 to be considered an adult in relation to confidentiality and consenting to stuff although it can be younger if the child seems competant. Refusing is different though - basically a parent can override the decision of the child of 16 or 17 but the Dr can override both! x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Encourage her to cycle to college. Would that work? Not possible. The main road into Henley is a deathtrap nightmare I know what you mean (even though I live in London) So many cars, opening their doors when I'm right behind them! (my reflexes have never acted so fast!) So I cycled on the pavement, them some teacher (not from my school) tells me its illegal, I told her to 'go away' rather rudely . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Well, as you're over 12 it is illegal, but then I'd rather cycle on the pavements than get squashed by a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisP Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Being 16/17 is a bit of a grey area i think in terms of adult/child. When I went to hospital Christmas before last I went into A&E in the childrens hopspital only to be told that as a 16 year old I had to go to the adult hospital I think it should be a child until your 18, because before I could drive I had to pay adult fares on the train to get to college, which worked out being about £60 a month, and without having a job, I struggled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scramble Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I told her to 'go away' rather rudely . are you sure that's all you said? sorry to here you struggled Chris These terms really aren't fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A chickychickychick-ENN!! Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Orange Wednesdays are brilliant. You get a free ticket for the cost of a text. If she's a major cinema fan it may be worth getting a v cheap orange phone/sim and going on Wednesdays. Some cinemas also do an 'all you can see' film deal for under £20 a month. So if you go more than three times a month you effectively get half the third film and all films thereafter free. I think cinema is grossly overpriced for adults. Our cinema is run by 14 year-olds, I don't get why popcorn has to be eaten (well I do - huge ability to mark up prices, minimum production costs) it's the noisiest foodstuff going. And invariably the sound is rubbish because film projection staff aren't professional anymore - they are 14 year-olds who hit a button marked 'play'. I will only go on Wednesdays as a rule. Does the council do any sort of subsidy for travel for those still in education? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Cinema prices are utterly ridiculous I think, definitely a reason to go over to Orange! You can even get free sims from the Orange website! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 Sadly we have zero coverage from orange here, & HAVE to be with Vodafone to have any mobile coverage at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 That sounds rubbish! Apparently the older phone you have the batter coverage you have-bit weird but true apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A chickychickychick-ENN!! Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 You only need to text once a week. Could you not get a cheap/free orange phone/sim just for the films and just do one text from the top of the, I don't know, church tower or something?! Save a packet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
