Old Speckled Hen Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 How long has anybody here been on this? I have endured a most miserable two years as my body has fallen apart without it so I'm back on it till my "last ride" Anybody here been on it for years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Arran Chooks Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I am not at that stage yet, but I was closely involved with my mum on her journey. As she had a couple of friends who had been on HRT for 10yrs (!) and still when they came off the HRT they still had to go through the flushes/sweats she did not want to go down that route. She visited a qualified homeopathic doctor who asked her roughly 100 questions about her health, life style and her life. From this she made up prescription for her - which she got on famously with. She also found a recipe for flap jacks (yummy) which she had one a day and it helped with the flushing. I can remember she also got something from Hollanand and Barratt - Soyaflavin or something - cant quite remember the name and what it did - I will ask if you like. But again it helped. Unfortunately there was nothing that helped with flooding - just need to carry extra clothing and wear lots of towels. Mum was roughly 6 years, but remember everyone is different and you could be nearer the end than you think. I also think it helped for mum to speak up about how she was feeling. Keep your pecker up! Anjx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggerlady Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Just to send hugs..cant help reallly cos they left my ovaries..so Im 'au naturel' but the warm glows during the night are gettin a tad tiresome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I was on it for a while, in various forms, but none of them suited me and in fact made it worse! I decided to go cold turkey after a while and then had a hysterectomy (left the ovaries in) fro another matter 9 months ago. The Big H was the best thing I ever did, the menopausal symptoms come and go and I just treat the symptom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftyhunnypie Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I once worked in a bakery decorating cakes & we had regular orders for HRT cake - wonderful according to a lot of women. Emma.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I've only been on it for 6 months, its great I'm able to walk instead of hobbling like an old gal, my friend had a hysterectomy 15 years ago & is still on it no problems at all, everyones experiance is different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrocksrock Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I did not opt for this but went through things naturally and really apart from the flooding and a few hot flushes at inopportune moments I was fine and am out the other side ( I hope) = mind you the aches and pains would maybe have been helped by the HRT instead of being a bit of a crock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ana's flock Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I'm starting to become irregular (before you could set a calendar to them) and getting what I think are hot flushes, so I think I'm heading for the change. I had heard of most symptoms but never of 'flooding' - can someone explain to me what it is? (Sorry for being such a 'foreigner'.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Arran Chooks Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 It just means a tremendous amount of blood at one time - too much for a sanitary towel to handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessa the Duchess Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I had a hysterectomy when I was 43, I immediately started experiencing menapausal symptoms, I started to take HRT and was on it for 15 years, no problems. When the scare about HRT and breast cancer occurred, about 6 years ago, my doctor made me come off it immediately, back came the hot flushes and I felt I aged about 10 years overnight. I would love to go back on it, but my doctor flatly refuses to prescribe it Tessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottechicken Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Have a look on here http://www.naturalhealthas.com they used to be the Women's Nutritional Advisory Service. I have a book by Maryon Stewart which states there is no translation in Japanese for 'hot flush' as Japanese women don't get them It's all the soy, apparantly, or the phyto-oestrogens (as in Burgen bread). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Please please please can I have flapjack recipe your mum used. I wont go on HRT as mum was on it and she got breast cancer whilst on it BUT she probably would've go it anyway. i just wont. I am moody bad tempered and scatty most of the time, I get hot but not flushed and strip off in shops and promptly put it all back on when we get outiside. OH says I have a funny metabolism. he dont know 1/2 of it. From experience as a nurse I've known women be on it 10 yrs +. Its a risk thery want to take. Until my op is out the way and I know what is going on in my uterus I am not going to do anything. Tkae starflower oil and felt I was better on that than EPO. we will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Just wanted to put this link here http://www.lcanimal.org/invest/premarin2.htm its about Premarin mares, the horses used to produce the no. 1 prescribed HRT treatment worldwide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Arran Chooks Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 No chucks yet - I will see if my mum still has the recipe and will post it for all Spooky - mum just phoned, she thinks she still has it and will look it out. That makes sense about Japanes ladies, as I said before mum took a soya supplement which helped! Anj Not looked at your link Rhapsody - I get the feeling I wouldnt like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottechicken Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Here's a HRT cake recipe; LINDA KEARNS HRT CAKEThis cake is 95% fat free – no fat is added as the nuts and seeds provide this. Ingredients: 4ozs/100g Soya flour 4ozs/100g wholemeal flour 4ozs/100g rolled oats 4ozs/100g linseeds 2ozs/50g sunflower seeds 2ozs/50g pumpkin seeds 2ozs/50g sesame seeds 2ozs/50g flaked almonds 2 pieces of finely chopped stemmed ginger 8ozs/225g raisins ½ teaspoon nutmeg ½ teaspoon cinnamon ½ teaspoon ground ginger 15 fl oz/425ml Soya milk 1 tablespoon malt extract Method: Put all the dry ingredients into a large bowl. Add Soya milk and malt extract, mix well and leave to soak for about 30 minutes. Heat the oven to 190°C/375°F/gas 5. Line a small loaf tin with baking parchment. If the mixture end up too stiff, it should have a soft dropping consistency, stir in some more Soya milk. Spoon the mixture into the prepared tin and bake for 1¼ hours. Test with a skewer and if it’s not cooked, allow 5-10 minutes more. Turn out and cool. Eat in thick slices with Soya spread. I found it on this website - http://www.laurelalexander.co.uk/membersarticles/article_hrt_cake.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I have been on HRT,patches for 7 years following a hysterectomy in 2002. Cant remember if they removed my ovaries or not but they did remove my cervix. My patches only have one hormone in them not the combined hormones. I am now 51 recently had check up with the GP, who was happy foe me to stay on them for now....but emphasised that I would have to come off them in my early 50's so I'm trying to prepare myself......can you get them on the black market?????? I chose patches rather than tablets as I read somewhere they had less side effects as they are absorbed in to the blood via the skin........dont know if thats true though......they work for me I would never remember to take a tablet every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Arran Chooks Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Charottechicken that recipe sounds really familiar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I found that my patches kept peeling off or sticking to my clothes! I make flapjacks with omega seeds and chopped prunes, date and figs - delicious, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottechicken Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Charottechicken that recipe sounds really familiar... Ooh, can you remember where from? It was virtually top of the list on a google search. It does look really nice so I may pick up the few things I don't have in my cupboards and have a go at making it, seeing as a hysterectomy is looking likely for me pretty soon I bought all sorts of seeds not too long ago as I was going to try making a Burgen bread in the breadmaker, but the chicks took over the kitchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I know what is in the link that Rhapsody posted - I decided some time ago that HRT woudn't be for me. I take Menopace ......when I remember and make flapjacks with seeds in. The hot feelings aren't too bad - I'll just keep flinging clothes off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Eat lots of tofu and have Soya milk in your tea. It works wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I will try the cake esp if fat free, bit worried OH may eat it too. Will have to keep away from ES cos of nut allergy. I have tried soya but not that keen. I do need to look at my diet as I'm a bit of a dinosaur when it comes to trying things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebird Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I decided not to go down the HRT route as it just seems to delay the inevitable. Instead I took Menoherbs combined with Australian Bush Woman Essence and the hot flushes, aching limbs and depression disappeared. I think I stayed on them for about 18 months and now I seem to have come through the menopause and out the other side with no more symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 The Australian bushwoman essence sounds very " tough". Visions of being able to lift the sofa with several bodies on it to vacuum under it. Joking aside i will google it and see what it says. thanks always ready to hear of new remedies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 I have tried various Natural remedies, particularly all those phyto oestrogens along the lines of soya and linseed. Took Macafem imported from USA etc etc. I had two years of intense hot flashes and aching muscles before I threw in the towel. I haven't had an unbroken night's sleep in two years and on some days I ached so much I had to roll out of bed and could hardly lift the kettle. I ran the London Marathon in 2006 but my running dropped off so badly that I had to drag myself round a fairly easy 2 mile stretch a couple of times a week, often in tears. I used to do 30 miles a week with one run being 12 or 13 miles. I just goes to show how the menopause affects people in different ways. My mother still has the aching limbs and lethargy at 84 and her hormonal changes made her a broken woman. My internet research has thrown up many examples of lifelong symptoms. The thought of a never ending battle in my retirement years was just too much. I take a combination synthetic pill as I am quite aware of pregnant mare products and would never allow myself to take those. Even two weeks have made a spectacular difference. I am sleeping better and have just got back from a decent run. I know it's not for everybody and I am aware of the risks but quality of life is so important. I guess I will have to stop some day and I've bookmarked all your remedies. I can imagine myself as an Australian Bushwoman .... wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
