Guest Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Dan After those two postings, can I just say - I CANNOT wait to meet you next year! Sounds like you've had a great Christmas 'do'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Wow Dan - you have had a good time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Frugal Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 You won't be disappointed to meet Dan. He's ace - with or without the addition of a bottle or two ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 There is a bus service from Edinburgh Airport to the city centre. I do agree with you Dan about such short flights - but I still might do it as otherwise I can't go. I might decide not to go anyway. Please tell me about sleeper trains - could I do it that way? AND, I'm glad you have had a good day. OH is out now at his works do. I hope he's enjoying himself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 could be worse Dan - the last time I got drunk and came onto the forum, I admitted to a secret passion for a certain ex-footballer......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnieP Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Dan, I think Debs needs to put you to bed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Frugal Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Either that or provide subtitles ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theherd123 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 could be worse Dan - the last time I got drunk and came onto the forum, I admitted to a secret passion for a certain ex-footballer......... Im saying nothing Chookiehen!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I don't think Dan's into footballers Chooks, so David is safe I think we're going to have to fly if we go, because I can't find a train fare under £100 - Phil has found a flight for half that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaz Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Poor Dan, you made a really serious point, yet I've been laughing so much at your postings. I've been struggling with feeling very anti "unnecessary" & domestic flights, yet not wantiong to be a complete party pooper on this wonderful topic. Obviously after a good party the inhibitions drop, enabling you to tell it how it is (albeit in hard to read typos! ) Sometimes our forum here sounds very green & ethical, the next minute we're supporting airport expansions (this is a local issue here, so on my mind) and the environmental damage caused by aircraft. It's not easy being green is it? Cheap, fast flights are so tempting, and sometimes, as Ginette says, make the difference between going & not going. When I hesitated to post this before, I didn't because I decided that an Omlet meet was an extremely necessary journey. I would rather see a drop in business travel before visiting friends travel! I'm sure many business trips could be replaced by conference telephone calls, internet etc. We still travel around quite a bit, and are no where near being as green as we could be, we make some steps in the right direction, then go against it other times. Anyway, I haven't had a drink, and don't want to derail this thread, just wanted to say I appreciated Dan's point. So, who's going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cate in NZ Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Dan, very good point, not quite as eloquently put as it might be though Reading the postings this morning really gave me the giggles. Sounds like you had a great time, and I do hope that your head is not too painful this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Dan, you are absolutely right about this I would add that the government contributes to this by subsidising flights. Otherwise, how on earth can a flight be cheaper than a train? That really doesn't make sense at all. And if flights were more expensive, people would be less tempted to use them. Sheila, I also agree with what you're saying. It's not easy being green (HaHa) especially when there is so much tempting us not to be. As we've said before, it works best as a gradual process where we 'green up' one area of our habits and then move on to another. No-one can take it all on board in one go. There is far too much to learn, for a start! But I also believe that we should be able to air our views on a forum, however strong they are. That is not the same as criticising how other people live. Dan didn't say I wouldn't be welcome in Edinburgh if I came by plane, he just said he wouldn't travel that way himself because of the damage to the environment. I am inspired by people who are passionate about their principles. They don't need to lobby me and try to persuade me to change, they set a good example just by the way they lead their lives and that makes me think about my own circumstance. So if we can't air strong views, we are not likely to interest others in what we care about. Sorry, I think that sounds as if I'm criticising somebody and I'm not. I suppose I'm just saying 'Don't hold back on your views whatever they are'. We're all normal people and there is bound to be someone here who thinks the same way, whatever way that is. Different opinions make things interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theherd123 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Great idea Dan - something i will do when i visit my relatives abroad!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 If you want some fairly cheap tickets go to this site: www.virgintrains.co.uk and click on Virgin Value, and then click on the train picture. Sign up to them and then you're off! The tickets will be cheaper the further you buy then in advance. At the minute you can get tickets from London-Edinburgh from £15.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Ginette! I have just had a thought whilst doing the washing up. I saw a programme last year about a man who lived his life to be totally carbon neutral; he could still have a holiday by jet airliner but on return he would plant half a dozen trees in his garden. I don't know how you quantify the pollution to tree ratio (I'm guessing there must be websites about this), but maybe you could use a domestic flight but plant a cherry tree or an apple tree in your garden when you return (and then you would have the fruit to look forward too)! Just a thought but it might be worth considering! Good idea! I think one of the flights sites I looked at actually brought up a link to a company which would do it for you. That's good isn't it? Yes! IF I fly to Edinburgh, I will definitely do that! Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Ginette! I have just had a thought whilst doing the washing up. I saw a programme last year about a man who lived his life to be totally carbon neutral; he could still have a holiday by jet airliner but on return he would plant half a dozen trees in his garden. I don't know how you quantify the pollution to tree ratio (I'm guessing there must be websites about this), but maybe you could use a domestic flight but plant a cherry tree or an apple tree in your garden when you return (and then you would have the fruit to look forward too)! Just a thought but it might be worth considering! There are actually websites where you can dontate to planting trees when you fly - just in case your garden isnt big enough for that trip to the Caribean These are just some of them http://www.treeflights.com/ http://www.co2balance.com/pages.php?pageid=108 http://www.carbontrust.co.uk/default.ct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theherd123 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Thanks for this Mel - when i next travel to Barbados it will cost me £27 to plant trees to offset the carbon emissions - a small price to pay for the two of us to see my mum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 ooh Barbados! Now, why do my relatives live in Eastbourne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 it's not fair Went to the Virgin Trains website but there are no cheaper fares from this side of the country - only if we travelled out from London. A xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 That's the problem we have Andrew - the downside to living in deepest darkest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 None from here either, but thanks for the link Liz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Thanks for that Dan, I will pop down to the station when I get a moment and check the prices from there.The website wasn't much help (as you said) and the phone system featured a natty Q&A thingy, but didn't come up with anything either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 but what about deepest darkest? Or will I have to ride my pony and trap until I get to civilisation (Wiltshire or Hampshire whichever way you look at it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Mel you might be able to get cheaper fares if you go from a different station, as it's a lot cheaper for my Sister to leave and go from Taunton, rather than Yeovil as it's cheaper that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 but that's because they are different lines probably - like Yeovil Junction and Yeovil Penn Mill - in my area they are all the same line (if you see what I mean - its a bit early ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
