ubereglu Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Have just been sent a petition via e-mail to try and get the prime minister to get rid of battery farming in the UK. To sign Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenlass Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Have done that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couperwife Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 signed!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanbb Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Well and truly signed Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Done! A xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I have signed it but a part of me worries about this kind of ban. We banned veal crates in this country but did not ban the import of crated veal, so a fairly hollow victory was won at the expense of the farmers.We did the same with farrowing crates for pigs, and again our market is flooded with cheaper less sympathetically reared meat. Isn't this what will happen if we ban battery eggs? They will j7ust be imported instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 I agree Rhapsody-unfortunately humans are such hypocrites, and food has been taken so far away from it's natural state we've lost our touch. It's always worth a try though-it will at least hopefully stop some hens becoming battery-fied and hopefully change attitudes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenp Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Hi, Signed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 (edited) It's a good starting place and gets our feelings about the cause into the arena. signed Edited May 16, 2007 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couperman Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Signed I blame the meglamaniac supermarkets. If they didn't drive farmers so hard for low prices. This practice maybe wouldn't be so common. The supermarkets are driven by those of us who want things cheap so...... it's our fault....."Ooops, word censored!"! I think what I am trying to say is support local shops whilst they still exist, rather than the mega big supermarkets. Omlet have changed my outlook on things such as this. I look forward to having happy chickens! Kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couperman Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Sorry Kate, I didn't mean to swear. Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 It is an automatic moderation Cooperman it even kicks in for some normal words like D i c k (without the spaces) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I think the tables are turning now aren't they Kev, and there's a definate shift towards people wanting to use local shops for fruit and veg again. Trouble is, the supermarkets have forced the small shops out and they are few and far between. Our local butcher has had to close, despite non of the locals wanting it to. So much for choice. With the big three, there is no choice. I'm not sure that everybody wants 'cheap as chips' produce anymore, but rather 'fairer' produce. There's always the exception of course. It's understandable that a small swear word might slip out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Folk like us who produce our own eggs, grow our own veg etc undoubtedly care and make a difference in the demand and supply chain but most people either dont stop to consider it or just dont care. I'm not saying the petition is a bad thing just that similar bans have backfired somwhat. If we ban battery eggs without tackling the demand for them what then? I remember after the bird flu outbreak in Norfolk my mother-in-law saying "ah well we'll all have to stop buying their stuff for a while eh?" when I pointed out I would rather eat my own shoes than a slice of Mr Matthews' intensively-reared product she looked aghast and baffled. Not eating a food because you dont agree with the way it is produced is not something that she has ever considered, and she is not by any means alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 My mother is exactly the same Rhapsody She does the 'I've done it for 70 years...' thing! It's a shame that us people who buy/eat ethically are few and far between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 But we can lead by example. We don't need to preach and alienate people, but by stating why we choose certain things - or not - people's awareness is raised and they just might think further about their own attitudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Signed! Since getting chickens, I don't know of anyone who buys 'value' eggs anymore! Maybe they are all too scared to tell me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 But we can lead by example. We don't need to preach and alienate people, but by stating why we choose certain things - or not - people's awareness is raised and they just might think further about their own attitudes. I agree Ginette. What's that saying about small acorns? With all the new programs on TV such as Jimmy's and It's not Easy..etc, .food awareness has definalty been highlighted a little and is reaching more people, and of course the forum is growing hugely and we're all making a difference here, however small. There are lots of similar forums growing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helly Welly Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Done The real truth about how animals are reared should be taught in schools so that future consumers can make informed decisions. The children will also be able to use pester-power on their parents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 But we can lead by example. We don't need to preach and alienate people, but by stating why we choose certain things - or not - people's awareness is raised and they just might think further about their own attitudes. I've tried that too. When she was appalled at the conditions in pork battery farms, as shown on Jimmy's programme, I pointed out that people (like her) buying cheap pork imports perpetuate this type of farming, but she didn't, or wouldn't make the connection - she's always bought the cheapest and always will. Strange, because both my grandparents on that side were Italian, they reared some of their own meat - rabbits and chickens and ate 'proper food'. I wonder if it's just laziness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 ....or maybe just a bit of stubborness Clare. At least you did your best. All you can do really isn't it...short of doing her shopping for her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I agree, it's all you can do. It's a bit like the Parable of the Sower isn't it? Some hear but don't do anything about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathy C Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 All signed up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Sooooo, lets say the ban goes through, hurrah, then in the supermarket the dont-cares have the choice of British free-range at a premium price or a cheap battery egg from the EU- what will they pick? All that will happen is that they will take their custom away from the British farmer and add considerably to the food miles burden. The sentiment is admirable but in a free trade environment it just penalises our own farmers. Wouldnt it be better to put a levy on battery eggs so that the price difference is smaller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
