Christian Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Have taped it! I will watch it tomorrow night when OH is away as he didn't want to watch. It upsets him too much. I saw snippets yesterday and it looked interesting and well made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Have taped it! I will watch it tomorrow night when OH is away as he didn't want to watch. It upsets him too much. I saw snippets yesterday and it looked interesting and well made. Ditto,Christian. Cleo & I will settle down & watch it together this afternoon,when Hubby is doing something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I'm going to make the whole family watch it. OH and YS are vaguely interested anyway but ES just keeps saying I'm obsessed with chickens. Yeah, and his point is .......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I agree Jamie is seen as an "Essex boy made good" whereas Hugh is a bit more upper crust and perhaps people don't feel so in tune with him. I think that was shown a little when the people of Axminster talked about him and his shop. I hope it does make people think a lot more, Mum is on the phone to an old friend who was saying how shocking it was - not the killing but the living. He was a butcher for most of his life but had never seen how these birds were kept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clash City Rocker Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I bought my Eglu and 3 chickens in June 2007 and am thoroughly enjoying them, before this I had no experience of chickens and their welfare. Since joining the forum I've been on a huge learning curve from various posts and links (Thank you). I now am begining to wonder if I did the wrong thing when I bought my chickens from Omlet. Had I of known in June that the "rescue" of chickens was an option, maybe it would of been something I would of considered rather than buying from the options Omlet offered me. This is not a critisism of Omlet, it's just something I've realised during this weeks TV coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochoo Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 (edited) Firstly, I thought it was a very well thought out programme. Hard hitting, yes but that's what needs to be done. I thought Jamie covered all areas with professionalism and passion. I just can't believe that some of the audience were still happy to buy intensively reared produce. Secondly, I've been to Tescos this morning and they've had the cheek to increase the price of their free range chickens! I usually pay between £6 and £7 and the average price was £9!!! I have no problem usually about price fluctuations, especially after the increases in feed pricing but that's just commercialism and greed. Edited January 12, 2008 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I think the comparisons between the two presenters may be a bit unfair - I think it has been specifically done in that way........... Hugh's led us in to the ideas and then Jamie's was to hammer them home. The Despatches one about ready meals was an aside to make people think a little bit more about what is in pre-prepared food......... not sure what part Gordon Ramsey is playing in his programme Ross (hello!) mentioned ASDA when he said the catchphrase should be "Our customers don't care, so why should we?" - I think that it should definitely apply to TESCO - that has been their attitude from the beginning I was aware that the tiny boy chicks were gassed - what upset me, and I didn't realise it happened, is that the gas is an inert gas and doesn't kill them - it suffocates them. I really found that difficult to cope with I assume that if they used a gas which actually killed them, then they couldn't then use the 'meat' for further processing into pet food or food for reptiles in captivity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahJo Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I watched last night, and OH recorded it too - I will take it into school, and let the teacher decide whether or not to show the girls. They have just done debates on organic farming, and intensive vs free-range, so this would tie in nicely. We are going on a field trip to an organic chicken/dairy farm so will report what it is like. Lesley - was just talking about you last night, as OH did not realise you also raised and slaughtered ( or have been to abbatoir ) larger stock. I am still very in awe of you and Carl, and so impressed with the level of care you give all the animals/birds - if only it went across the board. . Lastly - it was a delight to let my 2 ladies out into the sunshine this morning, and hear their happy clucks, if only it was that good for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules. Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 NO!!! Hotdogs made from MRM from ex batts!!! Why didn't I know that! (sorry boys, no more hot dogs ) Same in our house, Snowy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Lesley - was just talking about you last night, as OH did not realise you also raised and slaughtered ( or have been to abbatoir ) larger stock. I am still very in awe of you and Carl, and so impressed with the level of care you give all the animals/birds - if only it went across the board. . Lastly - it was a delight to let my 2 ladies out into the sunshine this morning, and hear their happy clucks, if only it was that good for all. We were very lucky to be in the right place at the right time Sarah - we were looking locally for somewhere with more land but never expected to find a smallholding locally - we had thought we would have to buy in France. Every day, we realise how fortunate we are. Even in our med. sized garden before we moved, as you know, we were raising a few table birds - it isn't impossible, but it is difficult to stop looking at the few extras a s pets It is nice to hear happy hens in the morning isn't it (and def. the abattoir for larger stock ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 NO!!! Hotdogs made from MRM from ex batts!!! Why didn't I know that! (sorry boys, no more hot dogs ) Same in our house, Snowy The MRM may not only be from chicken - most animal carcasses will be processed in the same way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules. Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I remember my mum only bought a chicken on-the-bone breast each Saturday at our outdoor market for our Sunday lunch. That was the only day each week we had chicken- and I'm only going back 25-30 years. She also used to buy half a dozen cracked eggs at the same stall. I know now that all of this would have been battery/ intensively produced, but it just goes to show that she could only afford to buy chicken for us once a week, & just how cheap it is to buy now, due to the "farming" methods. Stuart & I are changing our shopping habits- it means we won't be eating meat/chicken very often now, but the meat we do eat we will source locally & organically. We are so divorced in this country about where our food comes from. This whole week has been an eye opener- we have been watching Kill it Cook it Eat it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Just watched it. An excellent programme. Good for Hellmans. What an unfortunate name the chap had though. Jamie gives the Freedom Food label the thumbs up too, as an improvement. We have to support British farmers otherwise all sorts of dreadful rubbish will be imported. Don't forget that British jobs will be at stake too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaxsmith Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 if i had a waitrose near me I would shop there, but we dont have any. Have you had a look to see if Ocado deliver in your area? They deliver Waitrose food and only charge 1 or £2 delivery charge. On the battery hen front - my dh, who will happily sit through all the scenes of broiler chickens knee deep in their own excretement drooling at the sight of their huge breasts - said that even he could see that the battery system was cruel and, amazingly, said that he thought there was no reason why egg buyers wouldn't pay a few pence extra for free range. Result for Jamie I think. Mind you, we were a little concerned that Jamie's garden didn't look particularly secure for 150 naive oven ready battery chooks! I think more could also have been made of the fact that many of these hens are going to be good for eggs for another few years. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner.girl Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I agree with Ginette and Lesley. I think Hughs program's did do a lot of the groundwork for Jamies - i thought they were very good - but for the people who only watched Jamies (because it was Jamie Oliver ) that was succinct enough in itself also to give the whole picture. I do think the meat production industry is horrible but i would have liked to have seen 3 programmes focussing on battery hens and their lives. I know Jamie covered it but i would have liked to have seen more depth - a la Hughs programs on meat. Kate A - Grub was so wll behaved! What a star! I missed Jeans appearance at the end but have still got it on sky plus so will rewind again and look!!! The gassing of the chicks was upsetting and the news about what went into hotdogs - not sure i shall be eating them again... But, i think, a really good week for chickens. I hope it will encourage more people to eat good quality meat - at the end of the day some people may say they can't afford it and fair enough if you really can't but if they are smoking 30 a day, have sky tv, Wii's and xboxes etc at home and holiday abroad - i have no sympathy. Its all a matter of whats important to you... I wonder what Omlets sale figures will be like over the next few months - will they go up? And will the BHWT experiance more people wanting to rescue chooks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I wonder what Omlets sale figures will be like over the next few months - will they go up? And will the BHWT experiance more people wanting to rescue chooks? I reckon so, plus with the hen parties being hosted (im going to be a host too! ) and with so much awareness I reckon chooks will rule the world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftyhunnypie Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 What a fantastic program! Well presented & put the message across not to buy cheap eggs or chicken. I thought the bit about hidden eggs was very good. Good on Mr. Hellmans going free range. Ugh, all that wet egg was gross! I have seen bottled egg in the supermarkets, but not really thought about it! Those poor battery girls. Wasn't Jane great? Her lovely ginger chicken was so good! I didn't like the gasing of the chicks, but in the real world that is what happens - what a life eh? Born, live a couple of days....gassed! That shouldn't happen! You are going to get lots of people wanting hens in the garden & even a cockerel. When mine were squarking this morning, I thought squark away girls til your hearts content, because if anyone complains, I'll be round their house with a few pictures & home truths! People aren't going to bother about people keeping cockerels soon! I bet sales at Omlet have increased this week! I loved how Jamie had rescued some battery hens, I didn't realise they could live & lay up to 8 years?! I would love battery hens, but not sure how the Omlet girls would get on with them. Emma.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner.girl Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I wonder what Omlets sale figures will be like over the next few months - will they go up? And will the BHWT experiance more people wanting to rescue chooks? I reckon so, plus with the hen parties being hosted (im going to be a host too! ) Thats fantatic news Chelse! Very Just don't tell them what football team you support... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 NO!!! Hotdogs made from MRM from ex batts!!! Why didn't I know that! (sorry boys, no more hot dogs ) Same in our house, Snowy The MRM may not only be from chicken - most animal carcasses will be processed in the same way Your learn something new everyday i will not be eatging a few things from now on was a great tv show lets hope it hits home to more people well done to all who help with the show i say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 So pleased you enjoyed it. We're thrilled with the response and I've had some lovely emails today:D Jamie and Jane did us proud! Oh and the girls of course. I've ordered my 3 girls today, enough is enough I can't work for BHWT and not have some to cuddle BBx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah 2 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Oh how annoying I missed the programme. I used to shop at Asda to save money not anymore. After what's been said. What's MRM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Oh how annoying I missed the programme. I used to shop at Asda to save money not anymore. After what's been said. What's MRM? Mechanically Recovered Meat. Sludge in other words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah 2 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Of course. I didn't realise they used it in Hot dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourfinches Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I've managed to include a bit about the programme and the choices we make in our shopping in my sermon for tomorrow Morag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Well done Morag! I wish I could hear it. I think there was a bit in the Church Times this week - something about Man being responsible for the welfare of the animals (Genesis I should think). So Christians should be shouting out about animal cruelty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
