Chucky Mama Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 OH was driving home from work last night at about 7pm and narrowly avoided hitting a child who was part of a group running around and rushing out into the road without looking. He stopped and had a quiet word with them about road safety. They were probably no older that 8-10. He quietly explained that had he not managed to break, he would have hit them and they could have been seriously hurt or worse. As he got in his car and pulled away one of them shouted obscenities. So, OH got out of the car and pointed out that perhaps this would have been impressive if he was a big strapping threatening looking lad but as a scrawly little 8-10 year old it really wasn't either appropriate or impressive. At this point a woman came along who had witnessed everything and told him to leave the poor kids alone She didn't see the fact that he had nearly killed one and they had just told him where to go was an issue. What is the country coming to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Some just dont care, if they get hit one of the first things the parents think about is " How much compo" Sorry state we live in. Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Dreadful. I live opposite a large park & field,& see children running or cycling across the road without looking all the time. The parents always seem to be happily nattering away & not even looking. I think your OH is a brave & sensible man in chastising these children. I got my wrists slapped a couple of weeks ago by a mother who was letting her child 'ride' on the conveyor belt at work. She said it was none of my business that she let him do that,but I am sure she would sue my employers if he had fallen & split his head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I'd have driven on thanking my lucky stars "Ooops, word censored!"ody had been hurt. My late husband rushed into the sea in Devon when he had seen a little toddler fall over in the surf and flounder about crying. He....my hubby... was recovering from a very serious op (a laryngectomy) for cancer and had he fallen into even a foot of water he would have drowned. So this action was reflex but at some real risk to himself. The little lad ran off and some minutes later a great big guy appeared to thump my husband for being a pervert. I stood in the way .................. so he thumped me!! It's a sorry state of affairs, I know, but I would have minded my own I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&T Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 It seems "society" is always prepared to see the worse case scenario in any given situation. A man touched my son - he must be dodgy, rather than trying to resue him from the sea etc. Such a shame - and it doesn't help when the news organisations go on about the relatively very very few "bad" people in society, and never mention all the people who contribute in so many positive ways. Every stranger then just gets tarred with the same brush. I guess we are all guilty to a certain extent - knee jerk reactions to certain situations without knowing/finding out the full facts. I know there have been times I've looked at someone and due to the way they dress or whatever make an assumption, that has then been proved totally wrong.... A reminder maybe to take a step back, look at the facts, before commenting/passing judgement. Not always easy - especially if it is your own loved one you perceive is being wronged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Blimey Cinnamon - I take it thats the food conveyor belt not the place for a child surely - the things stop if you put a heavy bunch of bananas on them. Gave a silly teenage girl her jab yestderday 12 yrs old and she said s 4 times and b twice and mum said nothing. My son and his mates are told if I hear any fruity language - I normally tell them theres a lady present - this causes hilarity as they pretend to look for her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftyhunnypie Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Hence the reason I will not have children. It's not how you raise them, but the society that they have to live in - that makes most of them utterly horrid. I would hate to bring a child into this - it would be cruel to do so! What is the world coming too exactly? Emma.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckmum6 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Hence the reason I will not have children. It's not how you raise them, but the society that they have to live in - that makes most of them utterly horrid.I would hate to bring a child into this - it would be cruel to do so! What is the world coming too exactly? Emma.x If we don't raise good decent children (like our children here) and it is left to those who really don't know how or care (like those children outlined) then there really is no hope for us. We have a big responsibily to raise children who understand that there actions have consequences, and who night from wrong. If everyone gives up then we are doomed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sari Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Just to cast a little ray of sunshine in a dark world........ I had a Mum break down in tears at Brownies last night, as her daughter, who has a disability which is similar to Autism, is loving Brownies, and we are the only after school activity that has ever made her daughter welcome, made it possible for her to achieve, and be totally inclusive....Mum has insisted that we are wonderful..and because we see her daughter as no different, and it hardly needs much preparation... I live in a small village and know most of the kids...and I think that helps, when we see them up to no good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I can sympathise with your OH CM; A family over the road from me let their kiddies (some as young as 4) play in the road. Now it wouldn't be bad except that we are a side road which is often used for short cuts and cars speed along. Ad to that the fact that theer are cars parked along both sides and the kiddies dart out from between said cars. I wouldn't mind, but the houses here have big enough gardens and we're lucky to have a fair sized park at the bottom of the road, just 100 yards away I am on 'hello terms' with the mother and mentioned that the little 'uns might get run over and was met with a torrent of abuse. Makes me wonder why I bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhotchick Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 It's a shame that parents and other adults don't support the actions of people who are only acting out of concern for the safety of the children involved. It just makes people reluctant to act the next time something happens. I don't have children, but I was once one myself and I do have lots of nieces and nephews. We wouldn't have a society if we didn't have children, some of them are lovely, some of the time! and it's not always the children's fault - it's often the adults in these scenarios who need to be more supportive and give the children some direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 a mother who was letting her child 'ride' on the conveyor belt at work I really needed a jaw hitting the ground icon there. What was the silly woman thinking ? It would never have occurred to me that some one would be so stupid and unconsiderate as to do that. I hate seeing kids stood in trolleys as well. Not safe and I put my food in where their shoes have stood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 She actually wanted me to 'scan' him too I had to give the whole area a scrub down afterwards - not a great time on a busy Saturday afternoon I hate seeing them in trolleys too - it is so dangerous & terribly unhygienic. But in lots of cases,what little Tommy wants,little Tommy gets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alih Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I find it hard to understand what parents are actually trying to teach their kids. My daughter when she was about 13 got out of my car at school and ran across the road without looking. A van had to screech to a halt and she made things worse by tripping over in the road and dropping all her books. I apologised to the man in the van, tore a strip off her in front of all her friends (maximum humiliation) AND had a long talk with her that evening about the fact that if the man had hit her it would not have been his fault at all and that she has responsibilities etc. I was astonished that the driver of the van did not get out and shout at her - and if he had I would have had nothing to say - it might even have served more use than me telling her off! I deal with a lot of people at work who call anyone they don't like or think is a bit dodgy a "paedophile". There seems to be a culture of suspicion which overrides any sense of perspective. To think of a toddler in trouble in water and noone wanting to help in case of accusations/ violence is very sad indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clootie Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 She actually wanted me to 'scan' him too Maybe you should have scanned her for a brain. Good grief, how do you keep your composure? OSH - I'm truly shocked at your post. There are some seriously sick and twisted individuals around us and I applaud your late husband's selfless act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Hence the reason I will not have children. It's not how you raise them, but the society that they have to live in - that makes most of them utterly horrid.I would hate to bring a child into this - it would be cruel to do so! What is the world coming too exactly? Emma.x It's not just some youngsters that need to learn manners. Only a few weeks ago I was in a supermarket with DD 2 in the buggy and her cousin 3 walking by my side. 3 Old ladies were stood in the middle of the isle chatting. 3 year old went up to them and said "excuse me please" 3 times and at least 2 of them heard her but they just carried on yakking. In the end I had to ask them to move (not so nicely). I praised the 3 year old for asking nicely and told her very loudly she was very polite and the old women were very rude not to move. Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 OSH - I'm truly shocked at your post. There are some seriously sick and twisted individuals around us and I applaud your late husband's selfless act. [/color] It took me by surprise too On a lighter note; I have been known to ride the airport luggage conveyor ............. but as a consenting adult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foulbird Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 tell me about it! in the 70s we lived on an estate, the road we lived on is long and straight - speed limit 30. My (later ex) husband used to do 60 along there. Despite everything I said to him he kept on doing it. When I pointed out that he could kill a child one day he replied that it would be the parents' fault for not keeping the children in... It wasn't until I asked wh would go to jail, him or the parents, that he stopped speeding... ...and that's what's wrong - stupidity and selfishness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 tell me about it!. Hello, foulbird Welcome to the forum Hey you waited 10months to post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foulbird Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 hi, old speckled! actually, I was here before as fowlbird - 10 months??? as long as that? I've been quite ill and all sorts of personal problems and [looks shamefaced] forgot about this place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I find it hard to understand what parents are actually trying to teach their kids. Not prudence and restraint, that's for sure..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poachedegg Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 However, I would say that it is still only some parts of Society, and by raising decent children, and providing good role models, we are investing in Society, which don't forget includes us too, not just for now, but in the future........it's not all bad, and I'm sure for all the bad stories, there are plenty more good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foulbird Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 However, I would say that it is still only some parts of Society, and by raising decent children, and providing good role models, we are investing in Society, which don't forget includes us too, not just for now, but in the future........it's not all bad, and I'm sure for all the bad stories, there are plenty more good ones. that is very true... but not all bad behaviour in children is down to poor parenting. My two grandsons are both on the autistic spectrum and both have a rather skewed view of the world - partly from their father who has problems himself (my daughter is now apart from him but he has more influence over the boys than she does) but also from peer groups and the media. How can we teach them that hitting people is wrong when all the time they're seeing violence glorified on screen and in computer games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poachedegg Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 However, I would say that it is still only some parts of Society, and by raising decent children, and providing good role models, we are investing in Society, which don't forget includes us too, not just for now, but in the future........it's not all bad, and I'm sure for all the bad stories, there are plenty more good ones. that is very true... How can we teach them that hitting people is wrong when all the time they're seeing violence glorified on screen and in computer games? One way is to ensure/monitor that children are using age appropriate games and watching suitable television/dvds and limiting time on consoles, PC's etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foulbird Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 we do that, poachedegg, the difficulty is when they're with their friends or their father - not everyone monitors their children. When the boys were in primary school the elder boy was talking about a particularly violent film. My daughter was called in to school about it and was puzzled because he hadn't seen the film. Turned out that all the other boys in his class had seen the film at a birthday party to which grandson had not been invited but they'd had the sense not to talk about it... also, now that they're getting older - 11 and 12 - it's more difficult to get the message across. May I add that they're both very sexist and racist - something else they get from their father and it's soooooooo difficult to combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
