The Dogmother Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Definitely male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxigirl Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Oh dear that's a definite doodle doo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickabee Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Poor you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavclojak Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Maybe a name change is in order, David, Donald, Dennis, definitely not daisy:(( sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoachedPlease Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Oh wow very male after all, how strange. Will the seller take him back?? Xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfee2 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'm absolutely gutted. I can't find her number as my phone died and deleted everything a couple of weeks back. I can't bear the thought of someone doing away with him and now I don't know what to do about phlox. should I move her in with the girls with Daisy tonight as planned or will she suffer when Daisy goes? After losing Crocus and Coriander turning out to be a boy I'm really not a happy girl right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickabee Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Try advertising him for free on pre-loved. Different people want different things, or maybe a local farm. You could move them both in, then phlox will be ok when he's gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfee2 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 I found her after a lengthy Google search, and despite offering to take her back when I bought her should she be a boy, she won't do so. she says she paid for the chicks to be sexed and this is the second that has turned out to be a cockerel. not impressed and a little cross now. I've moved them in with the big girls now it's dark, topped up the grit and filled both of the grubs with growers. hopefully they won't kick off in the morning too early. I have the local breeder as my last hope of either telling me she is a girl or taking him on, otherwise I'm going to have to take my chances with preloved or Pets4Homes. I'm very worried for Phlox though as she's definitely the lowest in the pecking order and heaven knows how she's going to cope with all this change. I'm still not sure the stress of moving here wasn't what got her sister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'd go back to the supplier and mention Trading Standards... you might find that she changes her tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickabee Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Good idea godmother, the seller shouldn't be allowed to get away with it. She admitted she's in the wrong by saying she's already had one that turned out to be a cockerel. Don't worry too much about phlox, she's old enough to run away. As long as they don't draw blood, theyre usually ok. Bribe them with things like corn on the cob. Also if you can, let the old girls free range for a bit, whilst the youngsters get to know their surroundings .Sounds like you've got enough feeders and drinkers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickabee Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Just put - re homing cockerels in google. Came up with some interesting sites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickabee Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 So sorry I'm on a run now. There is actually information about rehoming cockerels on this site. At the top of the page above where it says adding photographs, there's a subject about selling chickens on the omlet website. It has 2 links to websites that can help re home cockerels. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'm so sorry, but it is a deep sound so perhaps your neighbours will be fine while you rehome him. If your seller said they'd take him back when you bought him then I reckon that's part of the contract. Like you I always ask that even with hybrids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoachedPlease Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Looking at your set up, I was in an identical situation as you a couple of weeks back, with 2 chicks that needed to be integrated with a flock of 3 older hens. One chick turned out to be a cock at 14 weeks so I didn't want to leave the female on her own. After much consultation I got rid of the cockeral, THEN put the pol in the coop with the big girls, but while they accepted her, she was thoroughly miserable and scared. So I bought another pol same age And put them back in the other eglu for a week. Then reintroduced them both into the main run and hooray they are all together! Can you face buying another pol? Xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 It won't be easy rehoming a cockerel; you and dozens of other people, I'm afraid. Can you face buying another pol? Xx I think you'll find that no reputable supplier will sell just one hen; it's just not recommended to introduce one bird to an existing flock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickabee Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I have on one occasion not been able to introduce one new bird, hence I now have 2 Eglus. However on a second and third attempt it has worked. Think it depends whether your prepared to keep 2 Eglus forever, or not. I got a young cream legbar, as they can sex them very early. She doesn't have an ounce of aggression in her and accepts being bottom of the pecking order. Despite me getting new hens since. Also can't wait for blue eggs, although it might not be til next spring now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 You'd be sure of the sex then and She's already got one new bird though DM. Suppliers round here will only sell 2+ unless there is a lone hen, so you will probably be ok if you explain the circumstances. I was fortunate in that my lone bird introduced herself but in your circumstances I'd get another. I felt sad for Ciggie because she never had a buddy which the others have had. They still naturally go in the groups they were introduced at times. Not that it mattered really she was a crackers hen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoachedPlease Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) That's not trueDogmother (I so rarely ever disagree with you!) I use a very reputable seller, who is a lovely man. He asked why I was buying only one pol, and when I told him I had another pol in the flock he agreed that was a good idea. You cannot be quite so prescriptive with how many you introduce, the birds are all so different. A friend of mine has a flock of 30 and has built this up over time adding one here and there as she fancies! She has enough space that it works. Edited September 27, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Yes on reflection they are probably more concerned about people keeping an isolated hen rather than difficulties with introductions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 She's already got one new bird though DM. Suppliers round here will only sell 2+ unless there is a lone hen, so you will probably be ok if you explain the circumstances. Sorry Plum, missed that bit as I was scanning through my early morning fog. The 'not selling one hen rule' is general and most sellers adhere to it, except in exceptional circumstances. Mainly because some plonkers think it's OK to introduce a lone bird to an existing flock. As others have said... if you explain the circumstances (sorry, I missed this bit) then I am sure they will be lenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfee2 Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 well, this morning came and they all woke up in the same cube ... no crowing at all?!?!?! Am I being overly optimistic that she might be a girl after all? I think Phlox is a little freaked out - she's been following Daisy round like a lost lamb, hiding underneath her whenever possible. I've left them all in the cube and run and I really hope I've done the right thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 That sounded like a definite male crow to me; females who try to crow usually end up squawking a sort of doodle rather than a full crow. LBB had a similar problem with a very butch hen of hers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia W Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I agree. We have a girl who crows from time to time and it sounds very strangulated, not at all like yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfee2 Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 she is gone. to a friend of a friend. and I'm gutted as she was the one I always wanted. I think I need to get a couple of others for Phlox but I don't know that I can trust anyone when they tell me they're definitely girls now. pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoachedPlease Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Aww so sorry mcfee. How about buying the pols that are easy to sex, the more common hybrids? Your story has put me off orpingtons for good, and they are so sweet. Xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
