Lewis Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I've never seen sheep and cows kept together (intentionally ) I was once changing all the sheeps waters, and one of the farm dogs (border collie) was wondering around the barn past me, then out of the corner of my eye this dog tripled in size I turned around and there was the cow! She'd managed to get out and went to visit the sheep We managed to round her up and get her back in her pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Lots of the fields around here have cattle and sheep in the same field so best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I've never seen sheep and cows kept together (intentionally ) They keep some in the same fields at Whirlow Hall Farm up near us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Is there some reason why they aren't usually mixed? Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Is there some reason why they aren't usually mixed? Sha x I don't think there would be a reason, because if there was a disease spreading risk, that would still be there if they were both on the same farm by using the same wheelbarrows, tools buckets etc. I's assume it would just be that the animals might not get on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 The only thing I can remember in the dim distant past is that donkeys shouldn't be grazed with horses as the former can be symptomless carriers of lungworm which can significantly affect the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I pulled in at a farm shop on the way back from Northampton yesterday. They had lots of sheep and about 5 cows with 2 calves in the same field. Best of luck Lesley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 The reason for keeping them in the same field is tha cows eat long grass but can't crop it short - sheep can't eat long grass easily and prefer the length left by cows, the sheep then graze it short. Alos, the cows eat the sheep worm eggs which don't affect them - and sheep eat the cow worm eggs .......it all helps with worming. We don't use wormers, we just move the sheep/cows every three weeks which breaks the cycle of worm eggs on the grass or soil - keeping cows and sheep together helps with the non-chemical worming. Still waiting for last lamb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickencam Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 That ewe needs a good curry Seriously I hope she produces at a convenient time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 She still doesn't look like producing - I just know she's going to upset tomorrow morning Curry sounds like a good option ......followed by castor oil We have a one acre field to check each time now as well - and she always stands behind another sheep .so we can't see her... I've taken some photos of the calves out in the field - I'll post a couple tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Any news this morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 No.... nothing....I just had a nice quiet stroll around at 6.15 We'll check again at 8.00 when we feed the calves, sheep and pigs........and then she'll be on her own until we get back. Shetlands are very good at lambing without any intervention - in fact, they positively dislike anyone to be near and she should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Still no news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen & co. Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I keep bobbing in here for an update Karen x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I keep bobbing in here for an update Karen x And me! She's a good few days overdue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 I didn't want to bore you all - believe me! I was extremely bored with walking up and down all the time! Yesterday we turned her over and had a good look. She does have some milk but her nether regions are not red, just pink, so if she is pregnant then she isn't due for a while yet. We checked on the date that the ram left and if he caudght up with her just before he left then she wouldn't be due until the end of the month anyway! We're leaving her alone now - just observing when we are out there and feeding anyway. We had thought she was barren and any sheep farmer would have packed her off to the abattoir long ago. The first year, we didn't get the harness on the ram soon enough to be sure and the second year we sent the ram home early and still couldn't be sure. She def. has a blue bottom ......and milk...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 We had thought she was barren and any sheep farmer would have packed her off to the abattoir long ago. I HATE doing that. At Lambing I was the one who had to go round and check all of the ewes and lambs and any with a bad bag or not sticking to the breed standard had to have a big red mark put on their heads due to be sent off and slaughtered. I know it has to be done but it just makes you feel guilty . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 It is sad isn't it? We have the two old ladies who should have gone a long time ago, the lovely Kerry Hill ewe who lost her lambs and should go off as mutton as she shouldn't be put to the ram again and this one who may be barren..........we justify keeping them by using them as lawn mowers! We don't have machinery to help us much - an ancient tractor with a new topper - but using the sheep does save us some time......which is always helpful Thanks for the link to your Blog Lewis - very interesting. We need to make a race using the hurdles ready for the shearer to come. He trims their feet for us as well. Where you have the photo of the sheep on the ground.........it takes two to keep a Shetland down as they just get back up again It is the same when you sit them on their bottoms to look at their feet.......they just do one little wriggle and they're back on all 4 feet The shearer says the same .....and he shears sheep all day, every day, during the season. All the small traditional breeds do it They are not as heavy to turn over......but much more difficult to keep turned so the work is actually harder and takes more energy. We found that out once we bought the big Kerry Hills - turn them over and they are heavier.....but they just sit like puddings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Lawn mowers seounds like a good idea, afterall people keep non-laying hens We had to get rid of Dolly the three legged one eyed sheep this year, she was unsold at at the market and the farm "adopted" her. Whenever she saw the sheepdog, because she only had one eye, she'd run off in to the rounded up sheep and scatter them all over the field! Those races cost thousands of pounds! I was shocked but they are really useful and slot together in loads of different ways. I know what you mean about them jumping back up, one of the first year vet students came on a placement and she kept getting kicked and cut when she was turning the sheep . We normally do their feet in a small pen, which is easier because they can't run away . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted May 14, 2009 Author Share Posted May 14, 2009 Just when we'd almost given up!!!!! An assisted birth - Carl was midwife, I was nurse............ a new little girl.....and, at last, my little black lamb. I always wanted a black lamb! The little lamb was not coming out so we had a look and the head was half out but no little hoofs. All was sorted out in minutes and we intervened just in time as the lamb's tongue was sticking out and turning blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Frugal Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Crumbs! Good job the able midwife and his assistant nurse were on hand to help. I'm so glad you got your little black lamb and that it's a girl!! Congratulations . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaz Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Phew, well done! Thanks for posting such a lovely pic, and very good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 How gorgeous . Congratulations . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaireG Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Congratulations. I'm so pleased you got your girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickencam Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 She's lovely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...