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[Paola]

DD1 and DD2 go to the same school. When we moved to the area the school was in catchment but then the catchment area changed. So when we applied for DD2 it was out of area but she got in. DS is due to start school in September but has not got in to DD1 and DD2's school The school that he has got into is in the opposite direction. I only put it down as a 2nd choice as I thought that he would never get in Words fail me......... I will be appealing.

[Egluntyne]

How disappointing for you.

 

Surely the fact that it would be safer for your child to travel to school with older siblings must carry some clout.

 

Best of luck with your appeal.

[BeckyBoo]

How awful, what a stressful worrying thing. That would really have me stressing out. At our school having a sibling there guarantees the others a place - they can't surely expect you to have three children at two different school in different places at the same time? How do they exactly expect you to manage, parents evening, school plays, going in to help out, pick-ups and ALL the other things that they will arrange as different schools in different places but no doubt all at the same times!

Quite ridiculous, I really really hope you get the right result from your appeal.

 

BeckyBoo

[Yolky]

Goodness that is stressful. I am waiting now on DS3 school place results. Our local school (well closest school) is in a different councils area so we are out of catchment. DD1 is at the high school in the area and DS2 is at the primary that I want DS3 to go to, but like with you there is no siblings rule. I am trying not to think about it too much as we don't find out till 1st march

 

Good luck with your appeal.

[Paola]

Goodness that is stressful. I am waiting now on DS3 school place results. Our local school (well closest school) is in a different councils area so we are out of catchment. DD1 is at the high school in the area and DS2 is at the primary that I want DS3 to go to, but like with you there is no siblings rule. I am trying not to think about it too much as we don't find out till 1st march

 

Good luck with your appeal.

 

I thought that we would find out next month also Hope that you get the place that you are after.

[TAJ]

In my area most secondary schools have taken siblings out of the criteria for selection to avoid people get 1 child into a 'good school' and then automatically getting other siblings in above children who live closer.

 

It is a complete nightmare - we did win on appeal, but DD has a specific learning difficulty I know many others that have failed on an appeal.

 

Tracy

[earthmam1]

Hi Paola

 

Good luck on your appeal I know how stressful it can be. We are over all that now, all at uni.

 

Are you in Hampshire? They do seem to be doing this a lot

 

sue

[Chickvic]

That does make you Wish they'd use some common sense when offering places. Like BeckyBoo said - how can they expect you to pick them up etc. from different schools at the same time?

[Yorkshire Pudding]

It seems very silly, but unfortunately LEAs are beginning to ignore the siblings rule more and more.

 

In the area I work in, there are no selective schools but still there is a lot of competition for places at some, even between 'in-area' applicants. The school I work in is 30% oversubscribed and hardly any applicants are from out of area - only a few and they tend to get places on the basis of SEN.

 

I know of one family of nine (!) with children with several different SENs; they are at a total of three different schools at the moment counting primaries and secondaries. It must be a logistical nightmare.

 

I hope your LEA see sense - I haven't ever gone through an appeal (my two are still primary age), but I'm sure some other forum folk have done and will be along with sound advice soon!

[jlo]

Good luck with the appeal. I have never gone through any appeals but know people round here that have. I really hope that it all works out.

[missuscluck]

Gosh, thats a worry for you. Hope the appeal goes your way. Its impossible for you to collect from two different schools.

 

Its a very stressful this school lark. My daughter is due to start in September too but we dont get our places untill the end of Feb I think. Luckily, I am happy with our catchment school although many round me are not. My daughter has the upset of possibly not going to high school with her best friends as their parents deem the catchment school not good enough for them. We will see when the places are handed out.

 

I have found it all difficult at times. My son is very happy and doing well so I dont have any reason not to be happy but I am sometimes made to feel like Im being a bad parent for having not pushed for them to get into another school, even though the chances of success at getting into a non catchment school here are slim.

 

I hope you get the result you want for your daughter. Im sure she will do well wherever she goes.

[Paola]

I just have spoken to DD1 friends Mum who lives in the village where the school is and she knows of somebody who lives in the village who's child did not get in I live in a new build development which is about half way, so about another 4 years of building. Also in the village where the school is, is a new build development. Where are the children who live in these new houses going to go to school? And what doctors are they going to go to?

[surferdog]

Definitely appeal Paula. This happened to friends of ours - two daughters at the same school and the youngest son was refused a place. He got in on appeal. Good luck.

[The Dogmother]

I hope that you get it sorted Paola - it's just plain daft!

 

I've applied for Rosie to go to two secondary schools, which are out of our area. They were recommended by her teacher and head as she has a gifted and talented wotsit in the areas that they specialise in. I am prepared to appeal if necessary. It won't be the end of the world if she ends up at the local one, but I'd prefer her to be at a school which specialises in her best subject.

[ClaireG]

It's crazy isn't it, i hope you win the appeal.

We're having fun and games with Adam. We thought he was starting at his new school ( we've moved areas) last Monday but then on the Friday at nearly 3pm we got a phone call to say he couldn't start, as the two LEA's had to meet about his statement of educational needs. They met on Wednesday and we thought he could start this Monday. I emailed the school who said that we had to wait for a letter from the LEA then return it before info could be released to the school . I was so fed up that i rang the parent partnership (they help parents of SEN children), we thought we had it sorted and that Adam could start this Monday but then i got another email saying he couldn't start until his statement has been reformated and the school agrees they meet his needs and funding has been put in place heaven knows when this will get sorted. The poor lad is desperate to be in school to!

[Lesley]

I just have spoken to DD1 friends Mum who lives in the village where the school is and she knows of somebody who lives in the village who's child did not get in I live in a new build development which is about half way, so about another 4 years of building. Also in the village where the school is, is a new build development. Where are the children who live in these new houses going to go to school? And what doctors are they going to go to?

 

We're having similar problems with schools for children in our village - because of all the new builds around Stratford it is now out of the catchment area, so is the nearest town, Shipston, and the other, Kineton, is almost at capacity. Lauren should hear soon as well - but as she is the first then we don't have to worry for another 2 years.

 

I hope your appeal is successful.

[Paola]

Spoken to OH and of course we are going to appeal. It looks like we are going to have to put the girls on the school bus which buys me time hopefully to be able to get DS to school and back. As we were in catchment when we moved DD1 travels free but as it changed we have to pay for DD2

[dancing cloud]

Definitely appeal and make sure you stick just to the facts if you can.

 

I used to clerk admission appeals in a former life and those that brought a thought-through case based on factual practicalities (distance, timings, how you have explored your options) always got a much better reception than the screamers, shouters and bangers on the table (and yes, there were plenty of them). Anyone using the phrase "I know my rights" was always onto a loser.

 

Try not to knock the other school if you can avoid it - much better to sing the praises of the school you want - and emphasise how important it is to your family to be together and have continuity. The fact that you have explored how you will cope if you can't get in, will also look good. Many parents won't even consider any other options.

 

All the very best and feel free to pm me if you want any help. I know the admissions rules have altered since I moved on, but I suspect the appeals process will still be much the same. No guarantees of course, but at least my many, many hours of sitting through these things over the years may come in handy .

[hillfamily]

Only just caught up with Paola.......good luck with the appeal, hope you manage to get DS into the same schools as DDs

[Paola]

Try not to knock the other school if you can avoid it

 

It is actually a better school then the one that the girls are in As it is out of catchment I never thought to get the girls in, besides it is much further away then the one that the girls are in now

 

Thank you Dancing Cloud for your kind offer, have showed OH your post as he will be writing the letter

[chelsea]

no wonder you're angry Paola, it seems crazy to me

 

My nephews are guaranteed to go to the same school if their older sibling goes there.

 

Hope its resolved for you soon.

[chickencam]

School admissions are a nightmare and we have lost many a night's sleep over them.

 

I hope that it all works out in a way that leaves everyone satisfied.

 

Best wishes

[Ardene5]

Hi Everyone

Work out if there are things that you can use as an argument. Different times the schools start or finishing , are the children going to become latch door children for example have a key to get in because you have had to go to the other school to sort something out.. Cost of sending the children to different schools, different holidays, you can not attend school plays at Christmas as they are all held on the same day at different schools, games events, Parents meetings and evening learning about the governors you can not stand to be on both but you could be a governor if all your children went to the same school.

Health and safety reasons why it would be best to send all the children to the same school.

Road safety, buses , if he is meant to walk home what lighting is there are there safe paths to use. No places where he can get bullied.

What the second choice school is like is not in the equation give them a choice either he goes to your choice of school or you go to the press, local MP, local councilor and explain the daftness of the system.

hope this helps.

 

Best regards

 

Ian & Valerie

[Berkochicks]

This happened in our area. 30 children from our town didn't get a school place in the town, they were going to have to attend school 8 miles away. All the parents got together and campaigned. In the end they put a temporary classroom at one of the schools.

 

Remember strength in numbers, find out who else got turned down contact your local MP and get their support. If there isn't the infrastructure now how will they cope with 40 more houses?

 

Donna

[Paola]

Than you all for your advice and support I knew I could count on you

 

I handed my form for DS to be put on the waiting list and spoke to the head this morning. She said that all children who did not get in who appeal will get in however she could not promise. Very positive. I mentioned that children from the village who did not get in and she said that this would be because the paperwork would not have been handed in on time, no other reason Of course we will still have to appeal but I am feeling loads better about it all. She did mention that it has been October before some children have got it but I can live with that