Lesley Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 You'd better cover your ears then We're still trying to work out which part of Kenilworth it's in - Carl's family are all in Kenilworth and he works there as well.....may have to have a nosey some time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 If you Google 'Faerie Tale Farm' and click for UK results only the planning details come up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ..................................and relax............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Interesting there is another llama farm in Georgia with the same name. Monty was hard on her but I agreed with every word. She just didn't connect with the land. How could she not walk around that lovely place and admire nature and the beauty. All she saw was thorns and weeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Wonder if she ever got her planning consent? I realised as i watched further that she probably wasn't helping her case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Is anyone watching this tonight??! Is it jst me or does this lady not have a clue beyond knowing a bit about alpacas? ooo she wound me up something awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Aaahh, if you google faerie tale farm kenilworth, all the details are there She does rather seem to have gone about things the wrong way doesn't she? No wonder the locals backs are up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Wonder if she ever got her planning consent? I realised as i watched further that she probably wasn't helping her case Feb 20th is the date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 If you re-google it we come up! fame at last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 And up comes Chucky Mama with "ooo she wound me up something awful" Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 If you re-google it we come up! fame at last The forum always appears for random things we've been talking about on google then you try and find something else about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) I've finished watching it now...........I can understand the feeling against her but thought the letter was a bit much .....there were worse bits which weren't read out She would have paid comparatively little for agricultural land and applying for retrospective planning consent for a dwelling will always be seen as a back door way in. I'm disappointed that Monty Don saw fit to encourage her. I was sad that she didn't connect with the land also - it looked like a beautiful plot. Edited February 12, 2010 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickencam Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 She came across as really grumpy and unwilling to get involved with country life. I can see why the locals were not happy, she just seemed to want a pretty spot to live with her alpacas. She had great land but had obviously not tried to learn anything about it and her comments about the nasty thorns and weeds just made me cringe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I don't think I shall watch that one then..... Away with the Faeries, was she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaireG Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Glad i wasn't the only one going ahhhhhhh at the telly last night She really didn't want to help herself did she? She wasn't trying to connect with the locals and wasn't taking Montys' advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleTree Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 She didn't seem to have any plans for the rest of the land, other than the two paddocks and the plot for the house. Why buy such a big amount of land and not use it? She didn't seem interested in anything other than alpacas, and then all she kept going on about was the price she could get for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 She was driving me insane, why did she only concern herself with the top paddocks, (sheep and alpacas) and not bother using the rest of the land... What amused me most was her wondering around in a mini skirt most of the time and barely even getting muddy, she seriously didn't have a clue! For the alpaca showing she really didn't make a good enough effort, they appeared to be muddy, having seen alpacas being shown, the standard is so high I'm not surprised she didn't do very well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 She ought to have visited Wellground Alpacas. They have a lovely log cabin which was OK'd as long as they could prove they could run a good business (Rob has a very interesting website and blog). And that is what a local guy here has done. She should have done her homework first and visited an alpaca farm - it's not as if there aren't any courses available. Or a land management course - oh the list is endless. Anybody reading Liz Jone's little section in the Mail on Sunday supplements? Another case of big dreams but realising the hard life once the fairy dust blows away (I don't want to read it, but I find I'm strangely drawn by it - same as watching these programmes with my jaw dropping to the floor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Another case of big dreams but realising the hard life once the fairy dust blows away (I don't want to read it, but I find I'm strangely drawn by it - same as watching these programmes with my jaw dropping to the floor). Me too Koojie, I read it and wince - is she really that bad do you think, or does she ham it up to make a good yarn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docsquid Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I didn't see the programme last night, but read the newspaper articles. Owning some land ourselves, she must have been in cloud cuckoo land to think she could build a dwelling and get away with it! If you need a dwelling to ensure the animals are properly cared for, then you need to buy a dwelling with land, not buy land and then build a dwelling on it. The land we own was used for a similar "hobby" business, this time with rare-breed goats. The former owner did get permission for a mobile home on site but the business folded and the permission was never used. The permission lapsed when the animals were no longer on site. We also had to modify our road entrance, and it is not fair to build on a national speed limit road, and then ask for the speed limit to be reduced. We managed to get approval for access on a national speed limit road, but we went through the proper authorities (as it happens, the same authority as this lady) and got the necessary permission first. We have involved the planning authority in everything we have done, getting permission for our barn, and any other thing we do covered by planning law. They are now taking a sympathetic view to what we are doing. We thought this was the right way to go. If this owner had gone to the planning authorities first up, with a proper business plan, and asked for permission for a caravan/mobile home (without a permanent foundation), then this might have been looked on sympathetically - as with the previous owner of our land. This would allow the business to get up and running and show it was financially viable - if it didn't the permission, and mobile home would be removed. If it was viable, she may then have got permission for a dwelling in due course. Now, I think she will be told to demolish the building, and they will take a harsh view of any subsequent application for a mobile home. I'd feel miffed, having played by the rules ourselves, if they take any other decision as it would tempt others to set up a "hobby" business and build all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 If this owner had gone to the planning authorities first up, with a proper business plan, and asked for permission for a caravan/mobile home (without a permanent foundation), then this might have been looked on sympathetically - as with the previous owner of our land. This would allow the business to get up and running and show it was financially viable - if it didn't the permission, and mobile home would be removed. If it was viable, she may then have got permission for a dwelling in due course. Now, I think she will be told to demolish the building, and they will take a harsh view of any subsequent application for a mobile home. I'd feel miffed, having played by the rules ourselves, if they take any other decision as it would tempt others to set up a "hobby" business and build all over the place. Exactly the same here for the people who lived here before us - they had cattle and raised ducks and guinea fowl by the hundreds and needed to be on site. They lived in a caravan for nearly 20 years while trying to sort out planning consent. (Stratford DC not Warwick DC like Faerie Tales Farm) Not all the outbuildings have planning consent - it wasn't always required 20 years ago - if we want to do anything with them we will probably have to go down the planning route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Having read letters from the council on line I am horrified at the bit in the programme where Monty Don said neighbours had complained because the lady was continuing to work on the house - cut to shot of lady dabbing a bit of wood preserver on with a brush... Actually by 'continuing to work on the house' she was in fact getting a septic tank installed Funny how they can twist things for telly by making it look harmless and the poor lady a victim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 That's what I hate about reality programmes - they skew it to show what they want... it's called 'journalism'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 As if Monty Don is an expert in this field of farming - he's a journalist pure and simple. Every time we watch it, OH complains about the ridiculous way he is dishing out advice - why?? He's not exactly John Harvey Jones is he? Jumps off soapbox and hides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 You're not the only one to think that Koojie, much as I adore that bit of posh totty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
