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[Alis girls]

If you are going to have an MI (heart attack) try and do it in a supermarket, station as many GP's mine included dont have a defib. Could use one if push came to shove - so make for Tesco's for your MI as "every little helps" stupid as it seems a lot of Gp's surgeries dont have one and chance of suvivial is higher if they do. Am I the only person who hasnt seen this ad?

[The Dogmother]

No, I hadn't seen it until just now when I checked it on YouTube - but then i don't watch telly.

[majorbloodnock]

....I believe that the defibrillator does actually 'talk' you through how to use it, so it can be operated by someone who isn't trained, if necessary.

Most modern AEDs not only talk you through it, but also have a number of important safeguards to avoid you actively doing something wrong. As a result, the casualty's chances of survival if an AED is used on them by someone who's untrained are markedly better than if the AED is ignored and someone does a Vinnie dance on their chest.

 

However, there are a number of details associated with AED use that make it well worth a first aider's while to gain the familiarity, and that's even after the minefield that is personal liability is taken into account (I'm definitely not sure on the legal details of AEDs used by non trained first aiders). Since it's only a half day session per year to stay up to date, any company that forks out on an AED to start with should see ongoing training costs as insignificant.

[Christian]

Re the defib - We have one on every aircraft, some airlines still don't

 

We are all trained in their use and do refresher training every year Just a morning going through the basics, but CPR is a more detailed practical test.

 

Things change every year, we can now use it on anyone over the age of 1. Previously, it was over 8. You don't have to set the charge etc, it is all automatic and it will not let you shock someone if their heart is fibrillating.

[Yorkshire Pudding]

I showed the vid to my y11s today, who have just completed their first aid certificates. They loved it and said it was definitely the best first aid video they've seen. Even heard a few of them singing along!

[Alis girls]

Yup beggars belief that many GP;s dont have them - esp with their salaries - sometimes a grateful pt will buy one - we dont seem to have many of those got a few ungrateful ones

[superkitty]

I think it's a great ad - saw it for the first time tonight. Really sticks in your mind - and using vinnie jones was a touch of genius!

[scubababe]

The ad is brilliant however it is a bit confusing as it is not meant to replace the 1st aid training of 2 breaths:30 compressions. It is designed to get the non 1st aid trained to proved compressions which is better than just standing there doing nothing at all!!

There are appalling survival rates from out-of-hospital cardiac arrests in the UK. Less than 10 per cent of casualties survive to leave hospital, and yet many cardiac arrests are witnessed by members of the public. We have to try and improve those survival rates while facing the reality that most people don’t know how to give cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR).

 

Research shows people are more likely to start CPR if they only have to carry out Hands-only CPR on a casualty. CPR with rescue breaths should remain the gold standard but if someone is untrained, or unsure about how to give rescue breaths and chest compressions, Hands-only CPR is still more likely to increase a casualty’s chance of survival.

 

So if you’ve been trained in CPR, including rescue breaths, and feel confident using your skills, you should still give chest compressions with rescue breaths.

 

I also carry the barrier mask on my keyring.

 

I still think they should have used nellie the elephant Now that would have been memorable Definately would have seen Vinnie Jones in a new light

 

Not taking the micky as it is a brilliant ad on a very serious subject. They reckon at the moment, less than 10 per cent of the 30,000 people in the UK who have a cardiac arrest out of hospital each year survive long enough to leave hospital alive. If someone carries out early CPR, it may double a casualty’s chances of survival. Hands-only CPR should increase the number of bystander interventions and save lives.

[Guest]

I am a first aider - but not trained on the de-frib! ......that's going to change!

[PapaJuliet]

If you are going to have an MI (heart attack) try and do it in a supermarket,

 

Actually, the best place to have a heart attack is at a race track. There is ALWAYS medical cover for the racers and also St John's for the spectators.

 

Last year a racing driver had a heart attack during a race and was attended by a rescue unit with doctor on board within minutes... factor in time for marshal to check on him, inform race control, and rescue unit to drive to scene. Sounds as though it might take a while but it's quick in an emergency - the race track in question has 3 rescue units spaced around the track so medical assistance was probably half a mile away. Anyway, I wasn't there and wouldn't give too many details in any case due to his privacy but I heard that if he had had the incident anywhere else he almost certainly would not have survived.

 

I'm not formally qualified in first aid but we have medically based training sessions for the rescue unit. I've done the CPR on a resusie Annie and used an AED training unit and, yes, they tell you what to do and, no, you can't shock somebody if it will harm them. They are so simple I wonder why you actually NEED training on them.

 

PJ

[Egluntyne]

I'm attending the annual first aid course at work today. I wonder if this new thingy will be featured.

[Ain't Nobody Here]

We were shown a training video on it at my last first aid course. Not that we have one in school (not really the likeliest place for heart attacks!)

[Plum]

Beware of Nellie. Went on training recently and was taught we have to speed up a bit which is why new song.

 

Trained in defib but we don't have one in our elderly rehab units. It's crazy but they are Social Services manned and the argument is about if their staff use it then they are responsible!!???!! what a crazy reason not to have a defib. Don't the elderly deserve a chance as well as those shopping in Tesco?

[majorbloodnock]

....Not that we have one in school (not really the likeliest place for heart attacks!)

Perhaps not amongst the children, but what about the staff? My son's school, for instance, has a relatively high average teacher age, many consistently appear if not a bit stressed then at least rather rushed and not a few are smokers. Moreover, the school has a swimming pool, and it doesn't always need a heart attack for someone to need an AED.

 

You'll know your workplace best, so I'm not disagreeing with you, but generally given how cheap AEDs are now I think there are becoming fewer and fewer places that really cannot justify one.

[chickencam]

We did a family first aid course last March, I am so glad that we did and it is nice to be reminded of the basics regularly. We had a fantastic down to earth instructor who said that something is always better than nothing, it is simple if someone is not breathing they will die within 3 minutes, so don't worry about what harm youe may do because without help they are lost.