Ain't Nobody Here Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 New advice from the British Heart Foundation - skip the kiss of life and go for chest compressions. I quite like the new advert . Think it might stick in people's minds quite well . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Phew. Am so relieved about the mouth to mouth thing. I'm very particular in that regard. I was in the bank once when a bloke in the queue collapsed with a heart attack. He was grey and pulseless. I opted to do the chest compressions, and volunteered another customer to do the mouth to mouth as I could see from his moustache that he was a smoker. We got him round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagazer Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I think the advert is brilliant, it would definitely stick in my mind (have done a short first aid course). I think everyone knows the song so it should really help. I must say I'm pleased about the mouth to mouth thing too, I never fancied trying it out on anyone. Well done Egluntyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hadn't seen that yet, ta Is quite a idea and sure will make more people remember. I know I wouldn't have felt comfortable going mouth to mouth CPR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 its been that way for a while now - I have a lerdl mask i borrowed (nicked) from last CPR training as even thou I'm a nurse i dont think i could do mouth to mouth on someone I didnt know. i have a rotten chest infection at present so they would probably not appreciate my germs In all my yrs as a nurse i have never done CPR except on the dummies. I always seemed to be at lunch if people arrested. I fully expect a load next week at work. i spend most of my leisure time helping elderly who fall or go wobbly when we are shopping. I suspect they see me coming and think ooh nurse I'll just keel over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 its a great ad, we learned to do chest compressions to Nellie the elephant that works too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Webmuppet Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I've not seen the ad yet but I know they mentioned on my last first aid course that the mouth to mouth was going to be dropped ( never had to do it for real but I always hated the mouth to mouth on the dummy - the alcohol wipes used on the dummy always ended up giving me sore lips). I've been a first aider for just short of 30 years (I started at a young age ) and things have really changed over those years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I saw this on the news this morning. Think it is a great ad campaign, really effective as it sticks in your mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I've not seen the advert, but a brilliant idea - in the US, CPR is taught as part of the national curriculum and as a consequence they have a much higher survival rate for heart attacks. I've used my skills once; successfully; believe me it is very stressful. The rules on CPR have changed every time I renew my certificate, I am sooo relieved not to have to do mouth-to-mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 The reasoning behind it, it there is usually enough oxygenated blood in the body from the last breath, to provide oxygen. Providing CPR is starting asap. Having performed CPR on a passenger on an Amsterdam flight, I can honestly say it is the most emotionally distressing thing in the world. Mouth to mouth should only be done with a face shield or correct mask. The risk of contamination is small, but there is always a risk. I always carry a face shield attached to my keys. Brilliant advert! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Thanks for posting this, I've shared it on Facebook and I'd urge everyone to spread the word. It's years since I've done a first-aid course, but I've always worried that I couldn't remember the rate for chest compression, or the ratio of chest-to-mouth-to-mouth. As long as I can remember the song, well I sincerely hope that I never have to do this. A great little video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Olly, the rule on rate of breaths to compressions changes all the time, so long as you're doing some I wouldn't worry too much as it's better than nowt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Currently, the rate of breaths to compressions is: For adults (who have not drowned): 30 compressions, 2 breaths. Adults who have drowned, children and babies: 5 breaths to start, 30 compressions, 2 breaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolaLayla Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Olly, the rule on rate of breaths to compressions changes all the time, so long as you're doing some I wouldn't worry too much as it's better than nowt. Last time at training, a couple of years ago, I was told it was 30 compressions to 2 breaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Same here, the time before that was 5/30, and the recovery position had changed yet again. Rosie is still doing lifeguard training, so she's now learning all this too. I was going to enrol her on a first aid course but there isn't really any need now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Same here, the time before that was 5/30, and the recovery position had changed yet again. Has it? Hasn't changed in the last 3 years or so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavenders_Blue Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 its a great ad, we learned to do chest compressions to Nellie the elephant that works too Me too I'm also glad the rescue breaths have been dropped. The idea always made me feel a bit queasy and the ratio of breaths to compressions seemed to change so often I could never remember what it was supposed to be anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Nellie the Elephant does it for me! Anyone seen the Dara O'Briain sketch about CPR? Basically it's: don't sing Nellie the Elephant aloud if you do have to do CPR. People around you might think you're not treating the matter seriously .... Vinnie Jones's wife had a heart transplant I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 This is the kind of thing I have with my keys. http://www.stjohnsupplies.co.uk/products/default.asp?productId=F79184 I was always taught 15 compressions to 1 breath, but that changed a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Same here, the time before that was 5/30, and the recovery position had changed yet again. Has it? Hasn't changed in the last 3 years or so.... Yes, my update comes every 3 years and each time I do it, something about the recovery position has changed... it's still basically the same idea, just minor changes. I've had the same tutor for the last 3 renewals and he always laughs about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Great ad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorbloodnock Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 It seems quite a few of you are qualified first aiders, but I'd be interested to know how many of you work somewhere where an AED (automated external defibrillator) is available how many of you are qualified in the use of an AED I've been a first aider at my company for a good few years now, but it was only after one particular incident (several heart attack symptoms but thankfully a different cause) that we looked seriously into getting an AED. Once we found they're less than £1,000 each, we ended up getting three, and we've been pleasantly surprised at how cost effective the SJA refresher training is given they are happy to hold the training at our offices. Net result is that if you're a first aider and not AED trained, I'd question why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 1 breath to 30 compressions last time we had CPR which was a few weeks ago - if I had to sing Nellie or Staying Alive whilst doing this I would need it more than the patient. We were also told personal safety is the most important thing - if you are in danger then you are no use to anyone if you are likely to be another casualty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavenders_Blue Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'm a first aider for work, but my situation is different in that I work from home for admin/paperwork etc, and my job is to run groups in the community for people who have had strokes. We hire a hall for these meetings, so no access to a defibrillator. However... we have a defibrillator in our village! Located on the outside wall of the fish and chip shop, ironically. I'm not defibrillator trained, although there are around a dozen people in the village who are, but I believe that the defibrillator does actually 'talk' you through how to use it, so it can be operated by someone who isn't trained, if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 It seems quite a few of you are qualified first aiders, but I'd be interested to know how many of you work somewhere where an AED (automated external defibrillator) is available how many of you are qualified in the use of an AED I've been a first aider at my company for a good few years now, but it was only after one particular incident (several heart attack symptoms but thankfully a different cause) that we looked seriously into getting an AED. Once we found they're less than £1,000 each, we ended up getting three, and we've been pleasantly surprised at how cost effective the SJA refresher training is given they are happy to hold the training at our offices. Net result is that if you're a first aider and not AED trained, I'd question why. I am trained to use one, but (bizarrely) we don't have one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
