Unsecure chicken perches

[patsylabrador]

DD came home from work hopping mad last night. One of her friends at work was 'advised' to wear make-up. They are both good looking girls who don't need or want to wear make-up. They wear a uniform and presentation is important at work I know, but I don't see why they should be told to wear it. It doesn't affect how you work. I saw a clip of Amy Childs yesterday, clearly all the cosmetics in the world can't help her string a sentence together. Just being overly protective but I don't like girls being judged by the amount of make-up they wear.

 

It feels good to get that out!

[BizzyMomma]

Grrr! I'd be cross too! An friend of mine works for a major supermarket and they have it in their contract of employment that all female members of staff are to wear their own brand make-up!

[Cinnamon]

Not sure I agree.

It is about corporate look,& a lot of companies want their staff to look a certain way (you should see the Disney list,or Hollister )

It is no different IMHO than wearing a uniform,having hair tied back or having your shoes polished.

 

While we are not made to wear make up if we don't want to,any make up we do wear must be discreet & natural looking. It doesn't stop a few of the younger ones slapping it on with a trowel though

[Alis girls]

I agree - stupid if you are young and have nice skin.

I have to confess to wearing the full works mostly due to age and mostly if i dont cos I'm an English rose (albeit one that prob needs deadheading) I have people telling me I look peaky. So vanity prevails but i wear it because I WANT to.

[Alis girls]

Mind you Hollister is so dark Cinnamon no one could tell if you had slap on - I went in and asked if they had probs with their lighting (got a withering look from hunk behind the counter ) and the smell - oh boy - ES said its their perfumes - smelt like a house of ill repute (not like I've been in one you understand)

[Cinnamon]

I know - it is so ridiculous in there that I refuse to shop there now

[LolaLayla]

I know - it is so ridiculous in there that I refuse to shop there now

And the music is sooooo loud I walked in one door, did a u-turn and out the other.

[Mum]

DD came home from work hopping mad last night. One of her friends at work was 'advised' to wear make-up. They are both good looking girls who don't need or want to wear make-up. They wear a uniform and presentation is important at work I know, but I don't see why they should be told to wear it. It doesn't affect how you work. I saw a clip of Amy Childs yesterday, clearly all the cosmetics in the world can't help her string a sentence together. Just being overly protective but I don't like girls being judged by the amount of make-up they wear.

 

It feels good to get that out!

One of the best parts about "advise" is ... you can take it or leave it

[patsylabrador]

I really struggle with the concept that women should be forced to wear make-up. Being well groomed and smart should be sufficient. It's all men have to do, they aren't told to wear make-up. Yes Mum, that's precisely what DD intends.

 

I have seen people queueing up for that shop and come out again carrying empty looking brown bag adverts.

[chestnutmare]

I am a young woman who wears makeup every day. Uniform is one thing but I don't think it needs to go as far as makeup. Will they be advising what hairstyle to have next, same nail polish? It's just too far in my opinion!

[snowberry]

Being a Cornish yokel, what is hollister?!

[LolaLayla]

Being a Cornish yokel, what is hollister?!

As far as I am aware it is from the same company as Abercrombie and Fitch...the shops are very similar anyway. Hope I am right with that

[bluekarin]

Being a Cornish yokel, what is hollister?!

 

Its a clothes shop that you need a torch to view any of the clothes they have for sale, if the one I walked past in S'oton is anything to go by Ridiculous.

[freddie]

I dont know what Hollister is either!!!

For that, I am glad!!

We do Mole Valley Farmers here, Countrywest, and if really splurging, Mountain Warehouse(Only in the sale). I live in Wellies, sweats, (many layers) and dog encrusted jeans....

And I love it

I only stopped work just over a month ago, astonishing how fast things slide

[chickencam]

I couldn't agree more, I am not a makeup wearer, I will wear it if I am going out on a special occasion and then people will comment on how good I look, I could take that as I look awful most of the time, but choose to take it as I look special for the special occasion.

 

I have been thinking about whether or not I should start wearing it more regularly because I sometimes cover as a receptionist in a small legal practice. the office is very informal and I do make sure that I am well presented in other ways, but age is starting to show

 

There is so much pressure on women about how to look, my YD had regularly worn make up from the age of 11 she is now 13, she has teenage bad skin and it helps her to feel better about herself, she loves trying out new looks. Whereas my ED is much more like me, she only wears make up when she is going out, but has a lovely way with clothes and always looks stylish.

[The Dogmother]

Interesting thread, and I can totally see how PL's daughter doesn't need to wear make up for her jib.

 

I am happiest not wearing any, but have always worn make up to work; partly because I work in a formal environment where we are expected to be smartly dressed and well groomed, and also because it's my way of separating my work and non-work personae. I (personally) feel more professional with it on, but that's just me.

[Space Chick]

I'm in my late 30s, but I never wear make up to work.... Just can't be bothered with that extra fuss in the morning.

 

As far as I'm concerned if I am dressed smartly, and do a professional job what does it matter if I have a bit of lippy or mascara or not.

 

I do wear make up on my own time though, if I'm going out with friends or OH, but I do that because I want to, not because there is some hidden rule that I should.

 

I think your daughter is right to stick to her guns, when I was 19 and in Uni I worked in a chippy... They tried to get me to wear make up to work there.... I told them to stick it, they had me as an employee as I was or not at all.... As I'm allergic to spuds, so never stole chips, they had me as I was

 

I would like to see how sexual discrimination laws would deal with the situation

 

Funny DM how we are opposites in make up wearing

[Bramble]

This is really interesting ... I'm 40, am a professional in a professional office and have never worn make up for home, work, going out, or whatever. I don't own any and to be honest and wouldn't really know what to do with it I am starting to feel that I "ought" to wear make up, but would feel very self conscious (not to mention very resentful about the time it would take to put on and take off) ... I wonder what my colleagues think ...

[The Dogmother]

I'm quite a bit older than you though Debs and would hate to frighten my work colleagues.

[Space Chick]

I'm quite a bit older than you though Debs and would hate to frighten my work colleagues.

 

You've never frightened me Clare You are a stunningly attractive woman and don't need make up x

[Seagazer]

Hmm interesting. Whilst I agree that you shouldn't be made to wear make up for work, I always did when I was working, purely my choice. I tend to wear make up everyday now (I need all the help I can get now). I'm not sure that not wearing make up implies that you don't look professional enough, surely if you are neat and tidy then that's all that matters?

 

My DD wears make up to work but its very subtle and you can hardly tell she's wearing any.

[patsylabrador]

I wear make-up every day even though I don't go out to work. I don't feel completely ready for the day without a bit of mascara. It was quite different when I started work, I was taken to one side and told off for wearing make up - by a female sergeant who was wearing make-up which was annoying!

Thank you for your replies.

[Looney]

It does seem strange that they are being advised to wear make up.I would be tempted to put way too much on in clashing colours and see how quickly they change their advice!

 

I wear make up most days if I am leaving the house. Mainly because I am always extremely sleep deprived and a bit of make up to cover the black circles and a touch of eyeliner and mascara do wonders for how I feel. - not sure it convinces anyone else that I am awake though!

 

I'm starting a new job on Wednesday and am not looking forward to having to be smart again. I do comfortable first and smart second usually....

[Olly]

I live and work in London, and I've never heard of Hollister either!

 

I do wear make-up - not much, but I never leave the house without mascara - but I think it's completely a matter of personal choice. They would not 'advise' a man to wear it! However, if you are in a job like air-hostess, beautician, etc then I think it would be more or less expected that you would present a certain 'look', and I can see that make-up would be part of that.

 

I am amazed at the women who put on their make-up on the Tube every morning, sometimes I wonder why as they barely look any different when they've finished. These are often women with peeling nail polish, scuffed shoes, and hair that could do with a good brush (yes, I AM turning into my mother! ) I think cleanliness and grooming are more important.

[Cinnamon]

They would not 'advise' a man to wear it!

 

They might

No seriously,they would advise a man to be neatly groomed facial hair wise,& as you rightly point out,it does all rather depend on the work & who you are working for.

 

Is it a shop based job Patsylabrador?