Alis girls Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Intersting report on GMTV this am re parents being banned at a playground for swearing somewhere in Manchester. YS goes to a good school and I have heard the odd swearword from children (primary age) ES goes to secondary school where even the teachers swear However I must share this as there we were bleary eyed at 6.15am sitting in bed, mugs of tea in hand and Penny Smith GMTV says "and now we'll go over to Manchester to see what the parents have to say on this ban on swearing in the playground" to which OH (sharp as a tack) pipes up with a swear word - cue for me to have coughing fit and tea all over bed and cat. I have to hand it to him his timing was spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Bet that wasn't a busy playground at 6.15am!! And good on them, I hate it that swearing has become "normal". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fur 'n' Feathers Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Bet that wasn't a busy playground at 6.15am!! And good on them, I hate it that swearing has become "normal". Totally agree. Have people forgotten that swearing is a form of abuse. It seems swear words are used as a form of punctuation now. Some people have said it is to voice a wider range of emotional expression but then they end up using the same words over and over . It has been said that there is a word in the English language for everything and that swearing is the result of a lack of vocabulary. Trouble is, they're all in the English dictionary now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorbloodnock Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Well, swearing has been part of language since language existed, so I'm certainly not inclined to become precious about it now. However, there's a time and a place for everything and I do feel people have become far less concerned about their effect on those around them; basically, I see far more selfishness around. A hundred years ago, even the co"Ooops, word censored!"st-mouthed people would tone down their language if they thought the company warranted it (the presence of ladies, gentlemen, children, clergy, nuns, royalty and a whole host of others). These days, if I take my kids to the local recreation ground on a Saturday, the two local football teams won't just be swearing at each other, but will be doing so at the tops of their voices. Constantly. Irrespective of audience. And will the referree do anything? Hmmm, let me think about that for a moment..... It seems to me the problem isn't with swearing in itself; it's about a generation who're so wrapped up in puttng themselves first that they regularly need to be reminded that swearing in front of someone (or pushing past someone, or walking past someone who obviously needs help, or cheating on their insurance, or turning their music up high when it's obvious it'll impact on other people, or, or, or.....) is socially unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 It seems to me the problem isn't with swearing in itself; it's about a generation who're so wrapped up in puttng themselves first that they regularly need to be reminded that swearing in front of someone (or pushing past someone, or walking past someone who obviously needs help, or cheating on their insurance, or turning their music up high when it's obvious it'll impact on other people, or, or, or.....) is socially unacceptable. oooh you sound like me my 21 yr old nephew was in a shop with me a while ago when he was dropping swear words into the convesation he was having with me! He looked very sheepish when I asked him not to use bad language in a public place, I'm not going to get prissy about it I've been known to use a 'celtic' word or two when annoyed, but there is a time and a place, and standing in the bank isn't one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbaraJ Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 definatly a time and a place and its become everyday language rather than something said in anger which i dont like. Certainly no place for it in the playground when others can hear!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'm not going to say I never swear, but never in front of family or teachers or anything like that. I was on a farm last christmas and some of what people were saying were a bit embarassing and they just use it as like you say, punctuation! Although they have really strong accents so its hard to understand what they say. Some of the teachers swear at us, well not at us - just saying the text book is ..... or something is ...... So if year 7's see hear that coming from a teacher, they'll see it as 'acceptable'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Did you know, that swearing can help relive pain. Although there is a time and a place for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chookiehen Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Did you know, that swearing can help relive pain. Although there is a time and a place for everything. I tried that when I was in labour with Owen, and all the anesthetists were in A&E dealing with the aftermath of a major accident, and I didn't find it to be true.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorbloodnock Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Did you know, that swearing can help relive pain. Although there is a time and a place for everything. Whenever I swore in front of my father, the swearing tended to induce pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I found the article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Did you know, that swearing can help relive pain. Although there is a time and a place for everything. Whenever I swore in front of my father, the swearing tended to induce pain there is a time and a place...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Obviously not everyone in your generation, Laura . I actually don't think it's just the younger generation. There seems to be a large proportion of every generation (except perhaps the elderly) who use swearing as punctuation or just use it inappropriately. I admit I do swear but I consider carefully who I'm with and who might hear me. (On my own in the car I give myself free rein - but just hope folk aren't lipreading .) Did anyone watch Deadwood? The language in that is absolutely appalling - I'd love to know if they did actually swear that much . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clootie Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Drat Edited October 2, 2009 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Standing in a queue with YS when a boy from the private and very posh school swore and his mate nudged him and pointed at my son and another young un and he said "sorry" and looked sheepish. I am no saint as you know and recently forgot myself when a mum from the above school recenlty refused to move her car a little at my polite request got an earful as muggins here forgot herself and made a rude comment about her size and her being a bovine and another word which is not printable. Son and his friend were going "go mum go mum" I was mortified and rang sons friend to apologise and she said he'd heard worse from his dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I was once in a queue for the cafe in Tesco,behind a bunch of college age students who were swearing like troopers. I said to them that please, as I had a child with me could they not swear & they all apologised profusely. There is a tendency like Laura says to assume that the younger generation are the worst offenders,but I must say that the 40 somethings are just as bad,of not worse sometimes And I once also had a sweet old dear tell me exactly where to go,in the worst possible way,when I pointed out that she had parked in a child space at Tescos,in front of my 5 year old daughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 We have made up swear words in our house as I agree that it can reduce pain. Current swear words are 'Krakatoa!' & 'Farmers!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorbloodnock Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 See, ANH, just from majorbloodnock's post, you gathered he was on about teenagers? I'm not having a go or anything like that, when I read it I knew exactly that he was meaning them too, I just think it's unfair how people seem to think we're all the same, that's all. . And yeah, same here - I'm carefull as to who is around and what setting I'm in. Obviously when I did work experience in a Pre-School or Nursing Home (both caring places where you have to help people ), it would never of entered my head to swear. And I didn't. Ah, and there, I'm afraid, is where you'd be wrong. Which generation, you asked. Mine, I'm afraid. Generation X, if you want to label it. Those of us who form the central band of those of employable age. The first generation where neither they nor their parents were obliged to fight for their liberty. I look at the average business these days and its number one goal seems to be short term gain. I look at many of the people employed by that average business, and I see exactly the same ethos on a personal level; look out for yourself, everyone for themselves, me first. In my opinion, it pervades every area of life. I only need think about the number of times on a dual carriageway I've indicated to move into a perfectly reasonable gap only to see a car accelerate to close that gap. And the driver isn't some kind of demon, but a normal person just like everyone else we work with, but unfortunately with just the same self-centred attitude I can so often see around me. Swearing is unpleasant. It's not going to make me shrivel up in horror, but I'd rather not have it forced upon me. Ditto flatulence. Ditto nose-picking. Those who indulge in such pursuits in public aren't really harming those around them, but are demonstrating a lack of respect for them, and that, in my opinion, is harmful to themselves. If everyone continues down the road of "me first", then society by definition will be eroded, and if my generation sets such an example (as it has), it's hardly surprising that successive generations will have their view of "normality" warped. There. Now I'll get off my soapbox. Far too heavy for a midweek evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffyknickers Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I do swear only in the places where there are adults who I know wont be offended by it. Not around children, people I dont know regardless of age etc. There are times I swear accidently in front of my children but this is very rare and by total accident, say I drop something like a glass I may say a word! When I am doing face painting I have children of different ages in the queue and adults. If I get a group of teenagers or children who swear I turn around and say "come on boys/girls watch it now, or you'll have to leave the queue" they normally go red and either shut up or apologise. What is difficult is when I have an adult in the queue who swears...you may say I should also tell them but remember, I am on my own trying to work and you just never know what abuse I could get. On Sunday I heard a mother who was pushing a baby in a buggy and a toddler walk beside her say the most horrendous things - I wanted to run over and grab the boy and take him home! Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Can I remind anyone posting on this thread not to try to get past the swear filter by disguising the word you wish to type,or by replacing the word with **** Any more of these & the thread may have to go,which would be a shame. Thanks for your cooperation on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 I agree as an over 40 - we are just as bad. I am making a conscious effort to not swear but in my defense when the PMT is at its worse and the red mist comes down - I am going to give it with both barrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenanne Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I try not to swear; if I gave yourself freee reign to swear in private then you know it'll be more likely to slip out at work. And certainly in the office I work in, swearing would not be tolerated - I think this is common to many offices as its seen as being unprofessional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules. Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 We were talking about this yesterday at our church coffee morning One of our attendees is a retired high school teacher, who told us that parents are only allowed on the school yard with the permission of the head teacher, its not a right of parents to be on the yard. So the head teacher who is thinkinig about banning parents is acting under school law, & of course has the interests of everybody at heart. My 5yo goes to a CofE school & the ( excellent) head is very often out in the playground both before school & after school. It's a shame she doesn't hear what I hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 YS goes to a good school and I have heard the odd swearword from children (primary age) ES goes to secondary school where even the teachers swear Since having children I do not swear in front of them. Only one word really offends me and thankfully I hear it rarely. It does not bother me hearing people swear as long as it is not around children. When I worked it was in the motorcycle industry and at time the language was colorful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I never swear and neither do my parents unless they are really cross. I don't really see any need for it really. It doesn't offend me that other people swear when they are talking to me but it does annoy me when people swear in front of children. This has frequently happened when i've been with my younger sisters and i just said to my sisters after not to repeat any words that they were saying as they are 11 and 13 so have people in their school that swear. Also when people are talking and every other word is a swear word. Its unecessary tbh. Chucky Mama i like the idea of making up swear words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
