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[Chucky Mama]

My 16 year old has been offered a job teaching a group of 4-7 year olds a pre martial arts class. He is a 2nd degree black belt in TaeKwon Do and so very well qualified for one so young. He has taught little ones before and has a wonderful rapport with them. The lesson would be 45 mins and he has to get himself there and back (which involves 'Mum's taxi' I suspect) Whilst the lesson is 45 mins he would have to both set up and speak to parents after the class. The person has asked him because of his history and expects him to do the odd fete and go to schools to demontrate on occasion.

In terms of £'s per hour what do you think that is worth. He has been offered £7.50 which I don't think is that much. What do you think it's worth?

[Space Chick]

Its a good pay by the hour rate for a teenager, but as it is a 45 minute session and thats all, it does seem a bit tight, particularly in view of travelling costs.

[theherd123]

Personally for the time and effort that is needed i think a tenner would be a better offer.

Considering the responsibility he will have and the time to set up, speak to parents and pack away I think 7.50 doesnt reflect the job he is being asked to do.

 

 

Good for him though - not many 16 year olds get asked to take on such a responsibility

[Cinnamon]

Well,its more than I get,& I am 43

 

My daughter gets about £6.50 at Waitrose I think - I would say your boy is onto a pretty good thing there.

 

If he enjoys doing it & its good for him,then he should go for it. Jobs for teens are hard to come by & it sounds like he has a real skill & a passion for the art to share

[Chucky Mama]

Well,its more than I get,& I am 43

 

 

[theherd123]

Sarah you are worth way more than 7.50!

[Lizzie50]

Hi, can I just add to make sure your son has a CRB enhanced police check done. Cost about £50 but even if he was a volunteer and not paid he should have this. If the club do not have the form he can get this via Police (internet). They have probably thought about this but thought I would comment in case they have not. Anyone working with children should have one but particularly as he is over 16yrs and the children are just little.

Hope this helps.

[theherd123]

Good point Lizzie.

 

As he is only 16 though so he will still be considered a minor himself.

Is there going to be an adult present while the class is going on?

[Egluntyne]

I agree, a good point.

 

If he has to pay for it himself, as a friend of mine did recently, admittedly an adult wanting to teach at an evening class, it will be a long time before he breaks even.

 

Good for him though. My son helped out at an after schoool club when he was a sixth former, coaching football. A good experience for him, and something to put on the CV.

[Geoid]

Hi, can I just add to make sure your son has a CRB enhanced police check done. Cost about £50 but even if he was a volunteer and not paid he should have this. If the club do not have the form he can get this via Police (internet). They have probably thought about this but thought I would comment in case they have not. Anyone working with children should have one but particularly as he is over 16yrs and the children are just little.

Hope this helps.

They take their time in processing it, I submitted the form for it 2 months ago, I really must chase them up.

 

£7.50 for 45 minutes, quite a good deal, since the minimum wage for under 18's is £3.10 or something

[Lewis]

Thats quite good pay

We got about £3.50 at the farm, and at 16 its even better

 

It does depend on how many children he will be teaching and how much they're paying though ...

[patsylabrador]

Also, this is a major thing to put on his C V. For future job applications, this kind of experience, trusted and working with people is invaluable. I would look long term and offset experience against pay. Well done your son.

[Chucky Mama]

Hi, can I just add to make sure your son has a CRB enhanced police check done. Cost about £50 but even if he was a volunteer and not paid he should have this. If the club do not have the form he can get this via Police (internet). They have probably thought about this but thought I would comment in case they have not. Anyone working with children should have one but particularly as he is over 16yrs and the children are just little.

Hope this helps.

 

Yes we will have to get an enhanced CRB check done and I will ensure that he does a first aid course. It will be going on in a sports centre where there will be qualified first aiders but I would want him to know what he is doing too. Most parents stay to watch so there will be plenty of people on hand. Sounds like it is a reasonable wage then.

[chelsea]

I would say that is excellent pay for a 16 year old CM.

 

That is more or less the same as what I earn an hour, and when I used to clean holiday cottages ( really hard work!!) I got £7.50 an hour. So it's really good for your son.

[Redwing]

£7.50 would be good if he was working several hours and so it would add up

 

One odd hours work though is worth more than £7.50 especially since he has to travel there and back and plan lessons

 

I am guessing the class will be consisting of quite a few pupils all of whose parents will be shelling out more than a few pounds for the session so once hall costs are covered who pockets the rest?

 

If your son wants the experience then its one thing but really i'd say between £10 and £15 is fairer, at the end of the day he would be doing the same job as a professional who would charge a lot more! At my gardening club we pay about £20-£30 for someone to come and speak for an hour

[abwsco]

I agree with Tasha.

[Tutti Frutti]

Well done to your son! Will they be paying for him to upgrade his insurance to instructor's level? And paying for the CRB check? My DH's a black belt and instructs kids in karate - he doesn't get paid as he does it to "share the knowledge" (not the proper lingo! ) and it counts towards his black belt training, somehow... Costs him a fortune though as he pays his own insurance etc on top!

[Chucky Mama]

Well done to your son! Will they be paying for him to upgrade his insurance to instructor's level? And paying for the CRB check? My DH's a black belt and instructs kids in karate - he doesn't get paid as he does it to "share the knowledge" (not the proper lingo! ) and it counts towards his black belt training, somehow... Costs him a fortune though as he pays his own insurance etc on top!

 

He has been instructing (mainly adults) for some years but in June he will officially qualify as an assistant instructor (age been preventing this before now). This means he can be insured to take an class by himself. This is with the TAGB (tae kwondo GB). This little class is for those too young to do the TAGB syllabus. I would expect them to cover all insurance as he wont be covered by his TAGB insurance and pay for his CRB check.

 

I agree Tasha it is a good hourly rate but it is for a short time. I am going to suggest that he says that he needs longer for set up and for speaking to parents afterwards. They want him to take on another class on another day but whilst he would earn more money, it is another evening of travel expenses & I will have to taxi him there. It wont however start until September and he is 17 in December so perhaps wont be long before he can drive.

 

I had wondered about him asking for a bonus for every extra child that joins. We will have to make sure that numbers are going to go up rather than down first! After all it will be easier for him to teach a small class, he is getting £7.50 regardless but it will be better for them for it to be a large class.

 

I doubt they will find anyone like him easily. They know that the little ones love him and he works well with them. He is also the highest qualified student in his adult TKD class - he is the same level as his instructor

[chickencam]

It sounds like an excellent hourly rate for a 16 year old. My OH pays our ED that for covering his reception during holidays etc, but he only pays her that much because she is his daughter and quite good at the job.

 

Maybe the way around this is to make sure that he gets paid for a couple of hours per session, to take in the setting up and talking to parents.

[Christian]

As others have said £7.50 an hour is good pay for a 16 yo. Although I think Tasha's suggestion of say 2 hours pay would be better, especially as he has to set up and talk afterwards.

 

Re the CRB, get it done asap. I have one every 5 years and that is just the basic one, it takes weeks. The enhanced takes even longer

 

As I mentioned on another thread somewhere, take a photocopy before you send it off. Makes it sooo much easier for the next time.

[The Dogmother]

That's a pretty good rate CM, and excellent experience for him too. The others have mentioned the CRB (mine took ages too ) and the first aid. Will he be covered by the main instructor's insurance?

 

Wish him all the best from me - do you have any videos of him in action?

[ubereglu]

That's really good. Minimum wage for 16/17 year olds is only £3.57 per hour, then it goes up to £4.87 when you're 18 and you only get full minimum wage of £5.80 when you're 22.

 

When I had a job I got paid £4.71 per hour and I am 17.

[Ain't Nobody Here]

No advice to offer but just wanted to say your son sounds like such a lovely boy . You must be really proud of him. He's a real credit to you .

[docsquid]

It is a good rate of pay. I got £7.00 an hour as a highly specialist exercise referral instructor (I no longer work in this role), and I would say the level of expertise is equivalent. I got less as a ski instructor (no longer able to do this thanks to knee injuries). I think this is excellent pay for a teenager, but there would be an argument for adding time to set up and clear up - this was included in some other work that I did for a Local Authority.

 

I do hope it goes well - 2nd Dan is a good qualification at age 16! I never got to Dan - was red belt only before I broke my leg and had to give up.

[sadietoo]

My son is a Dinghy Instructor ( he's 17) the going rate at the local activity centre is about £5.50 . There are adults present at the centre of course but he is expected to take full responsibility for his group and their safety on the water. Using this as a comparison it seems that £7.50 isn't too bad! As far as a CRB goes I didn't think that was necessary for under 18s.. or perhaps it just isn't necessary for my son because he works in a County Council run centre? Of course we don't have to worry about insurance or anything like that because the centre already have that in place.

 

As others have pointed out...there is the advantage that something like this looks pretty impressive on a CV,(or UCAS application) and that is important in these competitive times.

 

Also we have reminded our son when he grumbles about the rates of pay that he is getting paid to do something he enjoys..and that is worth an awful lot imo!